Windows 7 - Already Better Than Vista?

Brerlappins little hat wrote:i love how macfags bleat on about how superior ther laptops are and how theyre a part of 'the mac community' and decry windows as being shite and a rip of off mac os's etc, without realising that microsoft owns like a 49% stake in apple and without MS, apple wouldve sank without trace long before the ipod made apple 'trendy'.

oh and



how many buttons do macs have nowadays? still only one is it?

No, the Mighty Mouse has four buttons plus the scroll ball, which can be pressed, too.

Freak Out Requiem IV wrote:

Brerlappins little hat wrote:how many buttons do macs have nowadays? still only one is it?

None now, actually.

Brerlappins little hat wrote:

MCN wrote:

Brerlappins little hat wrote:i love how macfags bleat on about how superior ther laptops are and how theyre a part of 'the mac community' and decry windows as being shite and a rip of off mac os's etc, without realising that microsoft owns like a 49% stake in apple and without MS, apple wouldve sank without trace long before the ipod made apple 'trendy'.

oh and



how many buttons do macs have nowadays? still only one is it?

No, the Mighty Mouse has four buttons plus the scroll ball, which can be pressed, too.

oh yeah, so does the mouse on my work pc. which ive had for ages... is this a new feature for macs or something thet theyre gonna charge you through the nose for? the iMouse or something?

I got one with my Mac Mini when they first came out. So about 3 years ago.

Brerlappins little hat wrote:

MCN wrote:

Brerlappins little hat wrote:i love how macfags bleat on about how superior ther laptops are and how theyre a part of 'the mac community' and decry windows as being shite and a rip of off mac os's etc, without realising that microsoft owns like a 49% stake in apple and without MS, apple wouldve sank without trace long before the ipod made apple 'trendy'.

oh and



how many buttons do macs have nowadays? still only one is it?

No, the Mighty Mouse has four buttons plus the scroll ball, which can be pressed, too.

oh yeah, so does the mouse on my work pc. which ive had for ages... is this a new feature for macs or something thet theyre gonna charge you through the nose for? the iMouse or something?

£35 wired.
£50 wireless.

Charles Manson wrote:Semantics lesson:

Updates - fixes and patches that are applied to the already paid-for software.
Upgrades - Completely new and individual versions of existing software.

Updates are normally free. Upgrades are rarely free with commercial software.
Updates fix the existing software, they don't typically add big new features. Upgrades do.

Anuerin is not paying to update his Mac, but he is paying to upgrade it. There is nothing wrong in justifying this. Unless you advocate piracy, because Windows isn't free either.

Addendum: usual suspects start Mac vs PC bullshit again. strawberry float off with the elitism.

Remind me - how much will the new Xbox 360 dashboard cost me? And how much did the iPhone/iPod Touch software upgrade to access the Apps Store cost?

MCN wrote:

Charles Manson wrote:Semantics lesson:

Updates - fixes and patches that are applied to the already paid-for software.
Upgrades - Completely new and individual versions of existing software.

Updates are normally free. Upgrades are rarely free with commercial software.
Updates fix the existing software, they don't typically add big new features. Upgrades do.

Anuerin is not paying to update his Mac, but he is paying to upgrade it. There is nothing wrong in justifying this. Unless you advocate piracy, because Windows isn't free either.

Addendum: usual suspects start Mac vs PC bullshit again. strawberry float off with the elitism.

Remind me - how much will the new Xbox 360 dashboard cost me? And how much did the iPhone/iPod Touch software upgrade to access the Apps Store cost?

$9.99 wasn't it?

MCN wrote:Remind me - how much will the new Xbox 360 dashboard cost me?

Remind me - how much is Xbox Live Gold? Not that you'll need it for that update, I just wanted to get my fix of XBL bashing.

smurphy wrote:

MCN wrote:Remind me - how much will the new Xbox 360 dashboard cost me?

Remind me - how much is Xbox Live Gold? Not that you'll need it for that update, I just wanted to get my fix of XBL bashing.

I don't pay for that. Don't need it.

MCN wrote:

smurphy wrote:

MCN wrote:Remind me - how much will the new Xbox 360 dashboard cost me?

Remind me - how much is Xbox Live Gold? Not that you'll need it for that update, I just wanted to get my fix of XBL bashing.

I don't pay for that. Don't need it.

The story is that we want it, but have the willpower to not pay it. Makes us look cooler.

smurphy wrote:

MCN wrote:

smurphy wrote:

MCN wrote:Remind me - how much will the new Xbox 360 dashboard cost me?

Remind me - how much is Xbox Live Gold? Not that you'll need it for that update, I just wanted to get my fix of XBL bashing.

I don't pay for that. Don't need it.

The story is that we want it, but have the willpower to not pay it. Makes us look cooler.

Gotcha.

Yeah, I'd like Xbox Live Gold, but my money is tied up in Blackjack and hookers.

Brerlappins little hat wrote:

MCN wrote:

Brerlappins little hat wrote:i love how macfags bleat on about how superior ther laptops are and how theyre a part of 'the mac community' and decry windows as being shite and a rip of off mac os's etc, without realising that microsoft owns like a 49% stake in apple and without MS, apple wouldve sank without trace long before the ipod made apple 'trendy'.

oh and



how many buttons do macs have nowadays? still only one is it?

No, the Mighty Mouse has four buttons plus the scroll ball, which can be pressed, too.

oh yeah, so does the mouse on my work pc. which ive had for ages... is this a new feature for macs or something thet theyre gonna charge you through the nose for? the iMouse or something?

Believe it or not, a Mac has a USB port and guess what? You can plug whatever mouse you like into it and have as many buttons as your fingers can click.

Criticism = null and void.

Also:

Remind me - how much will the new Xbox 360 dashboard cost me? And how much did the iPhone/iPod Touch software upgrade to access the Apps Store cost?

Nice tangent there. I don't agree with the iPhone paid-for software updates, I don't understand the logic behind them (having accounts that require they charge money...hmmm). I think it's ridiculous profiteering, and Apple seems to always get away with this gooseberry fool while Microsoft would be dragged through every court known to man if they tried it on.

You could make that comparison with anything, though. How much will this apple cost me? And how much did that lovely orange cost me earlier on?

If you're looking for people who will defend OS X to the hilt, well, I'm not sure Carlos has posted in here yet. You're only going to find reasoned logic in the rest of us.

Charles Manson wrote:

Brerlappins little hat wrote:

MCN wrote:

Brerlappins little hat wrote:i love how macfags bleat on about how superior ther laptops are and how theyre a part of 'the mac community' and decry windows as being shite and a rip of off mac os's etc, without realising that microsoft owns like a 49% stake in apple and without MS, apple wouldve sank without trace long before the ipod made apple 'trendy'.

oh and



how many buttons do macs have nowadays? still only one is it?

No, the Mighty Mouse has four buttons plus the scroll ball, which can be pressed, too.

oh yeah, so does the mouse on my work pc. which ive had for ages... is this a new feature for macs or something thet theyre gonna charge you through the nose for? the iMouse or something?

Believe it or not, a Mac has a USB port and guess what? You can plug whatever mouse you like into it and have as many buttons as your fingers can click.

Criticism = null and void.

Also:

Remind me - how much will the new Xbox 360 dashboard cost me? And how much did the iPhone/iPod Touch software upgrade to access the Apps Store cost?

Nice tangent there. I don't agree with the iPhone paid-for software updates, I don't understand the logic behind them (having accounts that require they charge money...hmmm). I think it's ridiculous profiteering, and Apple seems to always get away with this **** while Microsoft would be dragged through every court known to man if they tried it on.

You could make that comparison with anything, though. How much will this apple cost me? And how much did that lovely orange cost me earlier on?

If you're looking for people who will defend OS X to the hilt, well, I'm not sure Carlos has posted in here yet. You're only going to find reasoned logic in the rest of us.

My GF has a Mac it's pretty nice although I can't stand the way the Ipod is going. It was bad enough not been able to use it with multiple computers and now paid updates and having to pay for dev tools is plain annoying.

Anyway I have Vista the 64-bit edition its all right, locks up a bit to often opening files and such, but no real major problems. Still have to use XP to play a couple of games though.

Jaxley wrote:

MCN wrote:I've had no problems with Vista at all.

This. But it sure does like to update regularly.

Once a month?

Otherwise it's just email junk filters and Windows Defender.

My GF has a Mac it's pretty nice although I can't stand the way the Ipod is going. It was bad enough not been able to use it with multiple computers and now paid updates and having to pay for dev tools is plain annoying.

You have to pay to be able to sell an app on the app store, I think. Or get access to the iPhone development kit. Xcode is still free though, and that allows you to develop for computers.

There are no paid-for updates on the Mac. There are paid-for upgrades.

Ookami wrote:Guys, guys.

Windows released an update pretty much every year in the late nineties, and expected you to pay for them. Windows 95, Windows NT, Windows 98, Windows ME, Windows 2000, Windows XP, and all that.

Mac updates are in a similar kind of time frame. Tiger was released 2005, Leopard in 2007. Snowleopard is coming out next year.

Pedantic but:

Windows NT and 2000 weren't in the same market as 95, 98 and ME.

This seems as good a place as any to ask, is Live Mesh any good?

MCN wrote:

Brerlappins little hat wrote:i love how macfags bleat on about how superior ther laptops are and how theyre a part of 'the mac community' and decry windows as being shite and a rip of off mac os's etc, without realising that microsoft owns like a 49% stake in apple and without MS, apple wouldve sank without trace long before the ipod made apple 'trendy'.

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how many buttons do macs have nowadays? still only one is it?

No, the Mighty Mouse has four buttons plus the scroll ball, which can be pressed, too.

And they are all terrible!

If I got £1 everytime I accidentally press the side buttons just gripping the strawberry floating thing, I'd be a millionaire.

I so want the iphone after seeing someone at uni use it and getting to hold it in my hands. But 8 gigs or 16 gigs only? For how much a month? And pay how much extra for a handset? mummy strawberry float THE HELL OFF Apple. It's crazy expensive, I'd buy it if I was rich, but I can't justify that price even if I get to earn 50k a year. It's an amazing piece of kit, but the price is astonishingly steep, I don't feel I should work for that price either.

Charles Manson wrote:

My GF has a Mac it's pretty nice although I can't stand the way the Ipod is going. It was bad enough not been able to use it with multiple computers and now paid updates and having to pay for dev tools is plain annoying.

You have to pay to be able to sell an app on the app store, I think. Or get access to the iPhone development kit. Xcode is still free though, and that allows you to develop for computers.

There are no paid-for updates on the Mac. There are paid-for upgrades.

Tell me - what is there in Leopard that couldn't have been achieved with an update to Tiger?

bear wrote:This seems as good a place as any to ask, is Live Mesh any good?

Yes.

I'm not even running it anywhere near how you 'should' (as I only have one PC).

But it's great to have access to my Work from anywhere, and be able to upload a new file to my account and have it automatically sync with my desktop PC.