Windows 10 - OUT NOW

Fed up talking videogames? Why?

Are you upgrading to Windows 10?

Poll ended at Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:10 pm

Yes, from Windows 8.
26
36%
Yes, from Windows 7.
31
42%
Yes, from Windows Vista.
0
No votes
Yes, from Windows XP.
0
No votes
Yes, from Windows 2000/ME.
0
No votes
Yes, from Windows 98...I've been in a coma & have only just awoken.
1
1%
Yes, but I'm buying a whole new computer.
1
1%
Yes, but I'm swapping over from a Mac.
0
No votes
No.
14
19%
 
Total votes: 73
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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by NickSCFC » Fri Dec 09, 2016 3:34 pm

Windows 10 and x86 apps will run on ARM processors next year.



This is game changing

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by BID0 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 1:58 pm

Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by Errkal » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:15 pm

BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by BID0 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:41 pm

Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by Errkal » Wed Jan 03, 2018 2:50 pm

BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by BID0 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:02 pm

Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

Yup it's 10 Pro now by adding the licence key but I am still stuck with public Microsoft accounts or local ones :(

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by Errkal » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:09 pm

BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

Yup it's 10 Pro now by adding the licence key but I am still stuck with public Microsoft accounts or local ones :(


Can you not do the following:

Settings > Accounts > Access Work or School > Connect > Join this device to Azure Active Directory

I'm on a 10 pro device in a workgroup using a M'soft account and get those option.

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by BID0 » Wed Jan 03, 2018 3:16 pm

Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

Yup it's 10 Pro now by adding the licence key but I am still stuck with public Microsoft accounts or local ones :(


Can you not do the following:

Settings > Accounts > Access Work or School > Connect > Join this device to Azure Active Directory

I'm on a 10 pro device in a workgroup using a M'soft account and get those option.

OMG yes it's hidden on that Connect window at the bottom in light blue clickable font. Thanks, you're an absolute star :wub:

Added to my organisation now and there's the ability to log in (with verification) on any Office 365 account now that it's been restarted :datass:

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by Errkal » Wed Jan 03, 2018 4:08 pm

BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

Yup it's 10 Pro now by adding the licence key but I am still stuck with public Microsoft accounts or local ones :(


Can you not do the following:

Settings > Accounts > Access Work or School > Connect > Join this device to Azure Active Directory

I'm on a 10 pro device in a workgroup using a M'soft account and get those option.

OMG yes it's hidden on that Connect window at the bottom in light blue clickable font. Thanks, you're an absolute star :wub:

Added to my organisation now and there's the ability to log in (with verification) on any Office 365 account now that it's been restarted :datass:


Boo ya! The invoice will be sent over by PM.

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by BID0 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:10 am

Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

Yup it's 10 Pro now by adding the licence key but I am still stuck with public Microsoft accounts or local ones :(


Can you not do the following:

Settings > Accounts > Access Work or School > Connect > Join this device to Azure Active Directory

I'm on a 10 pro device in a workgroup using a M'soft account and get those option.

OMG yes it's hidden on that Connect window at the bottom in light blue clickable font. Thanks, you're an absolute star :wub:

Added to my organisation now and there's the ability to log in (with verification) on any Office 365 account now that it's been restarted :datass:


Boo ya! The invoice will be sent over by PM.

I haven’t got it yet, must be my emails ;)

I quite like the Windows 10 setup for Work. Seems to take a lot of the hassle out of the administration side (so far from what I’ve dealt with anyway)

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by Errkal » Fri Jan 05, 2018 8:35 am

BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

Yup it's 10 Pro now by adding the licence key but I am still stuck with public Microsoft accounts or local ones :(


Can you not do the following:

Settings > Accounts > Access Work or School > Connect > Join this device to Azure Active Directory

I'm on a 10 pro device in a workgroup using a M'soft account and get those option.

OMG yes it's hidden on that Connect window at the bottom in light blue clickable font. Thanks, you're an absolute star :wub:

Added to my organisation now and there's the ability to log in (with verification) on any Office 365 account now that it's been restarted :datass:


Boo ya! The invoice will be sent over by PM.

I haven’t got it yet, must be my emails ;)

I quite like the Windows 10 setup for Work. Seems to take a lot of the hassle out of the administration side (so far from what I’ve dealt with anyway)


The setup you have is something I would have liked a customer I have been dealing with to go for, as it is they have a traditional AD where the servers are in Azure for reasons known only to some arsehole in an office, and the 365. They then disabled Sharepoint etc. as they have a file server in Azure too (again same reasons).

They could save a bloody fortune but using it as you now have it.

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by BID0 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:18 am

Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

Yup it's 10 Pro now by adding the licence key but I am still stuck with public Microsoft accounts or local ones :(


Can you not do the following:

Settings > Accounts > Access Work or School > Connect > Join this device to Azure Active Directory

I'm on a 10 pro device in a workgroup using a M'soft account and get those option.

OMG yes it's hidden on that Connect window at the bottom in light blue clickable font. Thanks, you're an absolute star :wub:

Added to my organisation now and there's the ability to log in (with verification) on any Office 365 account now that it's been restarted :datass:


Boo ya! The invoice will be sent over by PM.

I haven’t got it yet, must be my emails ;)

I quite like the Windows 10 setup for Work. Seems to take a lot of the hassle out of the administration side (so far from what I’ve dealt with anyway)


The setup you have is something I would have liked a customer I have been dealing with to go for, as it is they have a traditional AD where the servers are in Azure for reasons known only to some arsehole in an office, and the 365. They then disabled Sharepoint etc. as they have a file server in Azure too (again same reasons).

They could save a bloody fortune but using it as you now have it.

Yeh it took a while for me to get around to doing this after taking a while to convince it to get done. It's just the easiest way of keeping everything patched, licenced and backed up. Our premises has terrible internet (ADSL - 2MB) but I've got BT to install fibre now and once that's live at the cabinet then I can get that installed and all of the documents up in the cloud. I think that parts going to be the real pain, especially teaching everyone how to use it as they all have very specific (and wrong) method of working :lol:

Right now I guess you can best describe it as a home network that I've inherited, with a NAS share that I've added in (which nobody uses :fp: )

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by Errkal » Fri Jan 05, 2018 9:40 am

BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

Yup it's 10 Pro now by adding the licence key but I am still stuck with public Microsoft accounts or local ones :(


Can you not do the following:

Settings > Accounts > Access Work or School > Connect > Join this device to Azure Active Directory

I'm on a 10 pro device in a workgroup using a M'soft account and get those option.

OMG yes it's hidden on that Connect window at the bottom in light blue clickable font. Thanks, you're an absolute star :wub:

Added to my organisation now and there's the ability to log in (with verification) on any Office 365 account now that it's been restarted :datass:


Boo ya! The invoice will be sent over by PM.

I haven’t got it yet, must be my emails ;)

I quite like the Windows 10 setup for Work. Seems to take a lot of the hassle out of the administration side (so far from what I’ve dealt with anyway)


The setup you have is something I would have liked a customer I have been dealing with to go for, as it is they have a traditional AD where the servers are in Azure for reasons known only to some arsehole in an office, and the 365. They then disabled Sharepoint etc. as they have a file server in Azure too (again same reasons).

They could save a bloody fortune but using it as you now have it.

Yeh it took a while for me to get around to doing this after taking a while to convince it to get done. It's just the easiest way of keeping everything patched, licenced and backed up. Our premises has terrible internet (ADSL - 2MB) but I've got BT to install fibre now and once that's live at the cabinet then I can get that installed and all of the documents up in the cloud. I think that parts going to be the real pain, especially teaching everyone how to use it as they all have very specific (and wrong) method of working :lol:

Right now I guess you can best describe it as a home network that I've inherited, with a NAS share that I've added in (which nobody uses :fp: )


Go down the 365 SharePoint route, you get the option for WebDAV then for the people that really really can't get it, they can then use SharePoint as a network drive like the oldendays making the transition easier.

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by BID0 » Fri Jan 05, 2018 2:44 pm

Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:
Christmas CrackErrkal wrote:
BID0 wrote:Windows 10 question for people here who run/manage it in their work environment.

It's been left to me to move all the desktops/laptops etc to Win 10, done a few desktops which have gone lovely.

I've moved everyone on to individual Office 365 accounts for email and office apps etc, and for the people I've got on Windows 10 so far they also use this to log on to the computer.

I started on laptops today and it looks like Microsoft have a completely different installation process, which is great if you're a computer novice at home but it appears to be a detriment to me :lol: :fp: Installing Windows 10 automatically forces the Home installation even after a complete hard drive format, this then stops you from using an Office 365 account as a user. The only options during setup are to use your Xbox/Skype/etc account or to create an offline user - which I've done. That allows me to use the laptop and also change the product key (which has now upgraded the Home version to Pro). However I am now stuck with this offline user I've created. I can add the Office 365 account as a work account but I can't find any way to make this a primary account instead and delete the offline one.

To cut a long story short I want people to be able to use their Office 365 account to log in with so they don't need to remember login credentials for that as well as a basic user login per individual laptop.

Google gives me some solutions back in 2015 but they don't seem to be relevant anymore with menu/options changing in these later builds.


You would need to use the Join Azure Domain, 365 is is effectively an Azure Ad with exchange so you should be able to join devices to it and then they can log in with there 365 account.

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/ ... td-p/35003

As for the left over local user leave it there? It can be handy to have a local admin for when stuff goes bang. You should though be able to join to Azure AD as part of your deployment process with some PowerShell to save it being an additional manual step.

Disclaimer: I've not done this, but it seems in my head at least that it should work, I don't believe you would need a "proper" Azure AD subscription to do it although I could be wrong, I would though say an Azure AD would be advantageous as you would be able to use GPOs to better manage the user experience on devices.

Yeh that doesn't seem to work for laptops, I'm stuck in a Home environment even though I've upgraded it to Pro now. The way you linked to is exactly how it's worked on the 2 desktops that I've done so far.

Another way to join an Azure AD I found earlier was this:

Image
http://www.tomsitpro.com/articles/windo ... ,2-27.html

But the only option I have in that window is to rename the computer only. They must have removed the domain/azure ad options completely or someplace else in an update :? Cortana is completely useless whenever I search for Azure/office 365/active directory/user accounts or anything like that

I should note that this isn't a huge computer network, it's 6 users, 3.5 of which can barely use a computer and not that many more devices split between desktops/laptops. I'm trying to do this without creating a fulltime IT role that I'll have to pick up on top of all my other work.

Also thanks for the reply!! :wub:


If youa re on 10 home there is naff all you can do, you can use a "public" microsoft account (outlook.com etc.) or a local account and thats it.

10 needs to Pro or higher to get Azure AD as an option and would need to be a business or enterprise version of 365.

Yup it's 10 Pro now by adding the licence key but I am still stuck with public Microsoft accounts or local ones :(


Can you not do the following:

Settings > Accounts > Access Work or School > Connect > Join this device to Azure Active Directory

I'm on a 10 pro device in a workgroup using a M'soft account and get those option.

OMG yes it's hidden on that Connect window at the bottom in light blue clickable font. Thanks, you're an absolute star :wub:

Added to my organisation now and there's the ability to log in (with verification) on any Office 365 account now that it's been restarted :datass:


Boo ya! The invoice will be sent over by PM.

I haven’t got it yet, must be my emails ;)

I quite like the Windows 10 setup for Work. Seems to take a lot of the hassle out of the administration side (so far from what I’ve dealt with anyway)


The setup you have is something I would have liked a customer I have been dealing with to go for, as it is they have a traditional AD where the servers are in Azure for reasons known only to some arsehole in an office, and the 365. They then disabled Sharepoint etc. as they have a file server in Azure too (again same reasons).

They could save a bloody fortune but using it as you now have it.

Yeh it took a while for me to get around to doing this after taking a while to convince it to get done. It's just the easiest way of keeping everything patched, licenced and backed up. Our premises has terrible internet (ADSL - 2MB) but I've got BT to install fibre now and once that's live at the cabinet then I can get that installed and all of the documents up in the cloud. I think that parts going to be the real pain, especially teaching everyone how to use it as they all have very specific (and wrong) method of working :lol:

Right now I guess you can best describe it as a home network that I've inherited, with a NAS share that I've added in (which nobody uses :fp: )


Go down the 365 SharePoint route, you get the option for WebDAV then for the people that really really can't get it, they can then use SharePoint as a network drive like the oldendays making the transition easier.

We will see :lol: They exclusively use “my documents” folders. I think I’ll save myself tha headache till summer time

Thanks again for the pointers!

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by mysteriousdave » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:06 pm

Does anyone else have issues with disk usage during and after startup? It's maxing out at 100% for 5 minutes plus with loads going on, and making the whole computer pretty slow (it's 18 months old and more than capable of running Windows 10).

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by Lagamorph » Tue Jan 09, 2018 7:33 pm

Have you checked the Task Manager to see what process it is that's using the disk exactly after startup?

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by mysteriousdave » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:55 pm

Lagamorph wrote:Have you checked the Task Manager to see what process it is that's using the disk exactly after startup?


Aye the vast majority is system stuff. It's bizarre and frustrating! :x

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by False » Thu Jan 11, 2018 8:03 pm

Dont use task manager. Use resmon, gives you a deeper idea. You can identify what is hammering the disk on the disk tab and then use the CPU tag to find that process and look at the pids and stuff.

If you would like you can then use perfmon to track the process or PID or even the whole disk and record it.

If you are using old fashioned HDDs maybe you just have some fragmentation.

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by mysteriousdave » Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:52 pm

False wrote:Dont use task manager. Use resmon, gives you a deeper idea. You can identify what is hammering the disk on the disk tab and then use the CPU tag to find that process and look at the pids and stuff.

If you would like you can then use perfmon to track the process or PID or even the whole disk and record it.

If you are using old fashioned HDDs maybe you just have some fragmentation.


Cheers. Will check it out. If all fails might try a reinstall. :roll:

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PostRe: Windows 10 - OUT NOW
by mysteriousdave » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:40 pm

Some of the problem seems to have been Microsoft office click to run and superfetch. Uninstalled Microsoft office and disabled superfetch and it seems to have helped. Pretty crazy that Windows 10 has these kind of issues - if you google it seems to be a common problem


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