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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Pancake » Wed Sep 11, 2019 7:59 pm

Vote for Mayor

4 - Cora (Cora, FatDaz, Pancake, TAP) [Lynch Clarkman and TAP
1 - Clarkman (Clarkman) [Lynch FatDaz plus one other]


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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by OrangeRKN » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:11 pm

So, last night was the first time I didn't protect Mommy. Sorry Mommy, it was a somewhat desperate attempt to gain any sort of information!

What does Mommy dying tell us?

- Despite the kill announcement coming in at 5pm, like yesterday, it wasn't because of wolf inactivity. They aren't inactive - they chose to target Mommy.

- They probably targeted Mommy thinking he would be protected by myself, as he has been up till now. I have no indication (not even to Mommy!) that this wouldn't be the case.

- I think there is some mechanism forcing the wolves to attempt to make kills. From page 2, before the game began, I asked about the kind of situation we find ourselves in:

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OrangeRKN wrote:The rules sound good, the timings have presumably been chosen based off that activity data which makes sense! My one possible concern:

Mystical Ninja Starring Danmon wrote:...if not won by Friday 13th, the Wolf Mafia win by default


This might make "never kill anyone" a viable (and boring) wolf strategy. They could simply run down the clock, giving the village nothing to work with and keeping the chance of being lynched at random as low as possible.

It also lessens the effectiveness of any doctor saves (or other blocked kills) somewhat, although it doesn't invalidate them.


Without giving too much away, I've factored this in to the setup.


By targeting players who the wolves expect to be protected, they can probably get around whatever rule is in place making the wolves pick a target. Technically they are picking a target, but one that keeps getting protected, so they can't be punished for that.

If that is the case, as Mommy's death would support, it does leave this open question:

mcjihge2 wrote:Also on Monday there where supposed to be two wolf kills for the double lynch, did they time out then?


Only one person (Mommy) was protected by myself, so I would have expected one kill to have happened at least.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by mcjihge2 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:45 pm

I suppose cora is a good player, also adding a lynch suggestion

Vote for Mayor

5 - Cora (Cora, FatDaz, Pancake, TAP, mcjihge2) [Lynch Clarkman and TAP
1 - Clarkman (Clarkman) [Lynch FatDaz plus one other]

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1 - Clarkman (mcjihge2)
1 - Qikz (mcjihge2)


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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by mcjihge2 » Wed Sep 11, 2019 8:56 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:
mcjihge2 wrote:Also on Monday there where supposed to be two wolf kills for the double lynch, did they time out then?


Only one person (Mommy) was protected by myself, so I would have expected one kill to have happened at least.


My thought is that if it wasnt timed out, the wolves have attempted to kill Rocksteady and therefore he has been turned to the wolf side like Laga has said. This is likely because there has been no repercussions from Dan for a deliberate wolf kill miss.

My theory is also that Rocksteady may well have a win condition as "survive". So If he has been contacted by the Alpha, he could just swap back to human side and tell us who the alpha is.

I cant remember if ive put this theory forward before - my head is scrambled from playing Gears 5 horde, and that game has given me delusions, paranoia and psychosis.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by OrangeRKN » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:05 pm

mcjihge2 wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:
mcjihge2 wrote:Also on Monday there where supposed to be two wolf kills for the double lynch, did they time out then?


Only one person (Mommy) was protected by myself, so I would have expected one kill to have happened at least.


My thought is that if it wasnt timed out, the wolves have attempted to kill Rocksteady and therefore he has been turned to the wolf side like Laga has said. This is likely because there has been no repercussions from Dan for a deliberate wolf kill miss.


This theory makes sense - one kill attempt blocked by my protection, the other kill attempt failed because it was against a half-wolf. Not necessarily Rocsteady, but probably?

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Corazon de Leon » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:15 pm

OK, officially nominating TAP and Clarkman, with the recommendation that we go for Clarky.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Clarkman » Wed Sep 11, 2019 9:56 pm

I recommend voting for TAP, in order to have a chance of catching the Alpha.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Pancake » Wed Sep 11, 2019 10:12 pm

OrangeRKN wrote:
mcjihge2 wrote:
OrangeRKN wrote:
mcjihge2 wrote:Also on Monday there where supposed to be two wolf kills for the double lynch, did they time out then?


Only one person (Mommy) was protected by myself, so I would have expected one kill to have happened at least.


My thought is that if it wasnt timed out, the wolves have attempted to kill Rocksteady and therefore he has been turned to the wolf side like Laga has said. This is likely because there has been no repercussions from Dan for a deliberate wolf kill miss.


This theory makes sense - one kill attempt blocked by my protection, the other kill attempt failed because it was against a half-wolf. Not necessarily Rocsteady, but probably?

When Laga revealed the half wolf role he clearly said he could choose to flip. I don't think wolves targeting a half wolf would lead to them flipping.

Your reveal about protecting Mommy is interesting though.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by OrangeRKN » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:13 pm

Targeting a half-wolf for the kill results in a wasted kill, possibly only if they have already switched sides? Unsure on that last point from this wording:

Lagamorph wrote:At any point I can join the side of the Wolves, but don't become a Wolf in doing so and they don't find out about me unless they try to kill me, at which point they find out and lose their kill.


So it's possible the wolves avoided both kills by targeting protected + half-wolf

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by The Alchemist Penguin » Wed Sep 11, 2019 11:50 pm

I wonder what it means, mechanically, to "lose their kill"?

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Pancake » Thu Sep 12, 2019 7:37 am

I've lost confidence in the Clarkman theory. Stupid game :x

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:03 am

Yeah me too. We simply don’t have anything to go on, so it feels like we’re going to have a frustrating ending to the game. Well played Alpha. :dread:

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Mystical Ninja Starring Danmon » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:41 am

The penultimate lynch.


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No longer numerous enough to surround anyone, the villagers approach the writing Clarkman.
He finishes his sentence, puts down his quill, and wearily rises from his desk, accepting his fate.
They trudge toward the gallows.

...

Later, would-be doctors and medical experts analyse the corpse, under the watchful eye of the Mayor. Blood is taken. Organs studied. Hair samples compared.

After what seems like hours, one of the butchers approaches the remaining crowd of villagers. He addresses Mayor Cora:

"It seems certain," they explain, "that Clarkman was Human."

Mayor Cora sighs and shakes his head. "Well, what was it that he had decided was so important to write, just before he died?"

The butcher hands Mayor Cora a note:

Clarkman wrote:Image

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Maintaining one person's dignity is nearly always at the expense of someone else's. I have learned this for you.

Janet is caught between care work and caring for herself. Her life revolves around Sean, a talented fine art student, living and working with cerebral palsy. Both Janet and Sean are new to London and far from their families. Both are finding a means of escape through pushing their bodies to the limit.

When Sean is faced with an unexpected and deeply personal tragedy, Janet must let her guard down at last and discover what she's prepared to fight for.

The Art of the Body is a novel about dignity and intimacy, tenderness and brutality, unafraid to explore uncommon bodies in unusual ways.

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Hidden roles, your deadline is 5pm.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:43 am

For strawberry floats sake :lol:

Well, happy to take my place on the gallows for that one. Sorry Clarky.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by The Alchemist Penguin » Thu Sep 12, 2019 8:59 am

I can't tell if Clarkman's final message is a genuine clue or not.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Pancake » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:17 am

May as well lynch someone at random today, we have nothing to go on. Maybe we listen to Clarkman out of respect and kill FatDaz. That will also serve as some manner of revenge for Mommy. We won't win but we've already lost. And surely Rocsteady has joined the wolves now anyway.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:39 am

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:I can't tell if Clarkman's final message is a genuine clue or not.


He's confirmed that it isn't a clue via PM - apparently the clues will all come in Scary Voice font.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:42 am

Mystical Ninja Starring Danmon wrote:OrangeRKN
FatDaz
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Pancake
Qikz
mcjihge2
Rocsteady
The Alchemist Penguin
Captain Kinopio


This is who we've got left. I'm on backshift today so have a bit of time before work for last ditch investamagating. I'll see if there are any patterns or thoughts left to share.

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by OrangeRKN » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:52 am

If Rocsteady is a wolf then the game would already be over right? It's impossible for us to win if there is more than one wolf remaining - unless he doesn't count towards the win conditions. Either way that means we can ignore him.

I say we kill Kinopio as our final lynch, based mainly on me thinking I would be most annoyed if he turned out to be the alpha :P

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PostRe: WOLF MAFIA
by Corazon de Leon » Thu Sep 12, 2019 10:56 am

It is worth noting that Kinopio has been completely dark in the thread since 4th September. That's unusual.

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