Xbox Backwards Compatibility - final Xbox One update (list p88), games + accessories back compat on next Xbox

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Saigon Slick » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:27 pm

rinks wrote:The Bureau's not bad. I might re-buy The Darkness. It's fantastic, but I traded it in after completing it. It's only £2.99 at the moment - worth it for Mike Patton.


Have you got all the multiplayer achievements? The Darkness was a game I always hugely regretted not completing to 1000.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by rinks » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:34 pm

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rinks wrote:The Bureau's not bad. I might re-buy The Darkness. It's fantastic, but I traded it in after completing it. It's only £2.99 at the moment - worth it for Mike Patton.


Have you got all the multiplayer achievements? The Darkness was a game I always hugely regretted not completing to 1000.

No, and it still annoys me. It's one of only two games I ever traded in without properly fully completing to my satisfaction. I had to accept that the multiplayer, even when it was a new game, was virtually empty. And worse than that, it seemed utterly broken.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Saigon Slick » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:51 pm

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rinks wrote:The Bureau's not bad. I might re-buy The Darkness. It's fantastic, but I traded it in after completing it. It's only £2.99 at the moment - worth it for Mike Patton.


Have you got all the multiplayer achievements? The Darkness was a game I always hugely regretted not completing to 1000.

No, and it still annoys me. It's one of only two games I ever traded in without properly fully completing to my satisfaction. I had to accept that the multiplayer, even when it was a new game, was virtually empty. And worse than that, it seemed utterly broken.


If the multiplayer is available on BC and you do pick it up(it's available on eBay for a quid) I'd be happy to blast through it with you.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by rinks » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:11 am

Saigon Slick wrote:
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Saigon Slick wrote:
rinks wrote:The Bureau's not bad. I might re-buy The Darkness. It's fantastic, but I traded it in after completing it. It's only £2.99 at the moment - worth it for Mike Patton.


Have you got all the multiplayer achievements? The Darkness was a game I always hugely regretted not completing to 1000.

No, and it still annoys me. It's one of only two games I ever traded in without properly fully completing to my satisfaction. I had to accept that the multiplayer, even when it was a new game, was virtually empty. And worse than that, it seemed utterly broken.


If the multiplayer is available on BC and you do pick it up(it's available on eBay for a quid) I'd be happy to blast through it with you.

OK, cheers, I'll let you know if I get it.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Photek » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:01 am


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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Kevin McCallister » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:24 am

I don't think anyone asked for that, but it's good to see the program kicking off early again in 2019.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Photek » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:28 am

If it's X1X enhanced ill get hyped as I liked it back in the day.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Frank » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:53 am

If they're going through the Codemasters back catalogue, Damnation next please.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by BID0 » Thu Jan 03, 2019 11:13 am

Codemasters are pretty good at this :wub:

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by Monkey Man » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:00 pm


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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by DarkRula » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:28 pm

I didn't even know Raving Rabbids was on Xbox. It's also an out there game to be making BC.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Kevin McCallister » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:41 pm

DarkRula wrote:I didn't even know Raving Rabbids was on Xbox. It's also an out there game to be making BC.


It's one of the few games on 360 that utilizes the Xbox Vision Camera, which was the short-lived precursor to Kinect. I assume it doesn't work via BC though.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Cal » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:46 pm

Frank wrote:If they're going through the Codemasters back catalogue, Damnation next please.


DiRT 2 would be good (along with all its DLC). Still my favourite.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Errkal » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:49 pm

Cal wrote:
Frank wrote:If they're going through the Codemasters back catalogue, Damnation next please.


DiRT 2 would be good (along with all its DLC). Still my favourite.


I'd be well up for that, hell id happily buy a dirt 2 remaster.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - The Darkness, The Bureau: XCOM Declassified + Duke Nukem Forever
by Monkey Man » Thu Jan 17, 2019 12:27 am


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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - Ace Combat 6
by Kevin McCallister » Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:53 pm



Kewl.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - Command and Conquer 3 + Red Alert 3
by Photek » Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:55 am

Back compat on Xbox - the Numbers:

Total Number of BC Titles

538 Xbox 360 Titles

2103 Xbox 360 Titles Total (25.58%)

1900 Xbox 360 Titles Total Excluding Kinect and Peripheral Based Games (28.32%)

33 Original Xbox Titles

1047 Original Xbox Titles Total (3.15%)

The current tally of Backwards Compatible titles on Xbox One stands at 571 titles, 538 Xbox 360 and 33 Original Xbox. According to Wikipedia 2103 games have been released on Xbox 360, so that makes about 25.6% of the total library available on Xbox One. Since all accessories and peripherals from Xbox 360 era do not work on Xbox One, its fair to exclude these titles from the total list. This includes all Kinect Titles, Rock Band, Guitar Hero, uDraw, Tony Hawk, DJ Hero, Scene it, Lips etc. This brings the total number to roughly 1900 titles. This brings the total percentage of BC titles to about 28.3%, not bad.

Original Xbox is of course totally different. Licensing is way more complicated and making games work properly in the emulator is presumably more difficult as well. 33 Original Xbox Titles have been released since its inception in October 2017, a total of 3.15% of the total 1047 games released on Xbox.

Retail vs Xbox Live Arcade

Xbox 360 launched the concept of Xbox Live Arcade games, smaller, cheaper and generally more simpler games. These took off once some of the games became really popular like Shadow Complex, Mark of the Ninja, Peggle, Limbo etc. In the end XBLA games formed a good part of the Xbox 360 library and there has been some debate whether or not Microsoft prioritised XBLA games over retail games for BC, because these would obviously take less time and work to bring over because of the complexity of the games. I've gathered some numbers to determine if this is true or not.

538 Xbox 360 Backwards Compatible Games

294 Xbox Live Arcade Games (54.65%)

244 Retail Games (45.35%)

Based on these numbers you could say there is a slightly higher focus towards XBLA games, especially so in the earlier years of BC. In 2018 for instance, there have only been 11 XBLA games added compared to 94 retail games. Lets take a look at a breakdown for each year:

2015 = 121 games released

33 Retail (27.27%)

88 XBLA (72.73%)

2016 = 188 games released

63 Retail (33.51%)

125 XBLA games (66.49%)

2017 = 149 games released

67 Retail (44.97%)

82 XBLA (55.03%)

2018 = 105 games released

94 Retail (89.52%)

11 XBLA (10.48%)

2019 = 8 games released (Up until January 27)

7 Retail (87.5%)

1 XBLA (12.5%)

As you can see there is a rather interesting development to be seen. There has ben a major shift to retail games this year, whereas XBLA games were the major focus point in the first two years of BC especially. Each year the percentage of retail games compared to XBLA games has gone up. But how does it stack up to the total library?

2103 Xbox 360 games released

794 XBLA released (37.0% is BC)

1309 Retail released (18.64% is BC)

Roughly 37% of the total XBLA library is now playable through BC, considerably higher compared to the 18.6% of retail library. This is off course due in part by the many sports titles and peripheral based games like Guitar Hero, Rock Band, DDR, Sing It etc which can not be released on BC. If you exclude these titles the percentage is likely to increase to around 20%, still lagging far behind XBLA. So what is the conclusion than? In the earlier years of BC the XBLA games were definitely prioritised over retail games, probably because these were easier to port compared to the more complex retail games. In the following years and especially this year the shift has turned towards retail games, likely due to the fact the emulator is finetuned and can now process most retail titles allowing for more retail games to be added.

Backwards compatibility is my favorite feature on Xbox One so I had to share this analysis of the feature on a forum with you guys. There is an even bigger breakdown of the statistical data on BC on the link I provided.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/analyzing-xbox-one-backwards-compatibility-a-numbers-breakdown-last-update-january-27th-2019.66804/

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - Command and Conquer 3 + Red Alert 3
by jezhumphrey75 » Tue Jan 29, 2019 11:59 am

Christ so many more to go.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - Command and Conquer 3 + Red Alert 3
by Cal » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:11 pm

Let's hope they have Vampire Rain on their back-compat 'to do' list. I'm not joking.

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PostRe: Xbox One Backwards Compatibility - Command and Conquer 3 + Red Alert 3
by Pedz » Tue Jan 29, 2019 5:29 pm

Ninja Blade would be a nice addition too.

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