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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by rinks » Wed Oct 14, 2020 6:46 pm

more heat than light wrote:Why have they taken the option to buy a game out of the Xbox App? All I have now is 'Install On Xbox One' which installs the game but still requires purchasing when you want to play it. It's ridiculous.

Still got the Buy option on mine (iOS).

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by more heat than light » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:24 pm

rinks wrote:
more heat than light wrote:Why have they taken the option to buy a game out of the Xbox App? All I have now is 'Install On Xbox One' which installs the game but still requires purchasing when you want to play it. It's ridiculous.

Still got the Buy option on mine (iOS).


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This is what I'm getting. Is it different for anyone else? I'm on Android.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by rinks » Wed Oct 14, 2020 8:30 pm

Maybe the nerf for the iOS version is still going through Apple’s bureaucracy. Seems like a weird thing to do. You could buy via the website, I guess.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by BID0 » Wed Oct 14, 2020 10:54 pm

more heat than light wrote:Why have they taken the option to buy a game out of the Xbox App? All I have now is 'Install On Xbox One' which installs the game but still requires purchasing when you want to play it. It's ridiculous.

It’s so you can download it and patch it in advance of getting a physical copy. It’s a good feature for people who have friends coming over with a copy of a game you don’t own, or youve preordered a physical copy (especially with the launch of the new consoles), renting etc

I imagine it’s also useful when you know something is coming to game pass soon or it’s becoming free to play for a short period of time. You can get it downloaded and ready to play in advance.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by more heat than light » Wed Oct 14, 2020 11:06 pm

BID0 wrote:
more heat than light wrote:Why have they taken the option to buy a game out of the Xbox App? All I have now is 'Install On Xbox One' which installs the game but still requires purchasing when you want to play it. It's ridiculous.

It’s so you can download it and patch it in advance of getting a physical copy. It’s a good feature for people who have friends coming over with a copy of a game you don’t own, or youve preordered a physical copy (especially with the launch of the new consoles), renting etc

I imagine it’s also useful when you know something is coming to game pass soon or it’s becoming free to play for a short period of time. You can get it downloaded and ready to play in advance.


Yeah I get it's a useful feature, but I don't see why you can't also purchase the game from the app. It's weird.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by RichardUK » Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:58 am

more heat than light wrote:
rinks wrote:
more heat than light wrote:Why have they taken the option to buy a game out of the Xbox App? All I have now is 'Install On Xbox One' which installs the game but still requires purchasing when you want to play it. It's ridiculous.

Still got the Buy option on mine (iOS).


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This is what I'm getting. Is it different for anyone else? I'm on Android.


I just checked and it definitely works on iPhone

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by Photek » Thu Oct 15, 2020 3:47 pm

Looks like MS has maybe bought Asobo?

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by JChalmers » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:22 pm

Photek wrote:Looks like MS has maybe bought Asobo?

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I thought Microsoft owned them anyway with it being Microsoft Flight Simulator?

Maybe another Series X GamePass Launch Title?

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by Frank » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:23 pm

would *love* that.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by Photek » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:23 pm

JChalmers wrote:
Photek wrote:Looks like MS has maybe bought Asobo?

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I thought Microsoft owned them anyway with it being Microsoft Flight Simulator?

Maybe another Series X GamePass Launch Title?


No way MSFS is making Series X launch....

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by JChalmers » Thu Oct 15, 2020 4:29 pm

Photek wrote:
JChalmers wrote:
Photek wrote:Looks like MS has maybe bought Asobo?

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I thought Microsoft owned them anyway with it being Microsoft Flight Simulator?

Maybe another Series X GamePass Launch Title?


No way MSFS is making Series X launch....


Ah i thought it had already launched for Xbox One but looking on the net it's still 'coming at a later date', so yeah probably not a launch title.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by BID0 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:39 pm

Like most updates this one has killed my Xbox so it doesn’t look like I’ll be doing any gaming tonight while I leave it on in the background to index the hard drive for days

The Series X can’t come quick enough

Also when you press the Xbox button to bring up the guide, is that meant to populate with previously opened games and apps or is it really meant to be a giant unused space?

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by Buffalo » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:04 am

Hang on Dave lad, we can’t be having this sort of talk.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by Photek » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:21 am

I updated my OG Xbox One (for my daughter) and One X. It seems to be quicker on both but most updates are at the start, although it never got that slow in the past couple of years on One X anyway. Bido, like, it's possible your Xbox is borked? I presume I'm not the only person who owns an Xbox that doesn't take 'days to index the hard drive'.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by Frank » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:24 am

Mine is awful at loading the update list but apart from that it seems to work alright. Is it an external hard drive it's indexing or is everything saved internally? Guess an external hard drive would be a bit easier to troubleshoot

All those separate rock band tracks clogging it up :(

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by Corazon de Leon » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:43 am

Frank wrote:Mine is awful at loading the update list but apart from that it seems to work alright. Is it an external hard drive it's indexing or is everything saved internally? Guess an external hard drive would be a bit easier to troubleshoot

All those separate rock band tracks clogging it up :(


Oh gooseberry fool. :slol:

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by Photek » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:44 am

Frank wrote:Mine is awful at loading the update list but apart from that it seems to work alright. Is it an external hard drive it's indexing or is everything saved internally? Guess an external hard drive would be a bit easier to troubleshoot

All those separate rock band tracks clogging it up :(


I hot swap my external HDD drives at back all the time as I move stuff to my external SSD, especially when I first got it so I could check load times etc. I would note that after copying in and out games on the external drives the Xbox would get choppy so I'd restart it. I haven't messed much with the new dashboard but the only big improvement I noticed was the speed of the OG Xbox using it. My OG Xbox is hooked up to a monitor on a desk in corner of living room. My daughter uses it, it's handy as if we play Sea of Thieves and stuff together we don't need headsets cos we in same room. She has an external 1TB and I was surprised how fast it worked because the OG Xbox has been slow for a while now.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by BID0 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:23 am

Photek we have more content on our Xbox's than you that's why the updates always kill our systems for the first few days and yours is buttery smooth.

The problem stems from the Xbox One file system needing to check every single file on the storage pools. If you have a lot of content then the HDD is busy reading/writing and that's why you can't do things like launch games, have laggy menu response times and images not loading etc because the drives are running at 100% searching everything.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by Photek » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:31 am

BID0 wrote:Photek we have more content on our Xbox's than you that's why the updates always kill our systems for the first few days and yours is buttery smooth.

The problem stems from the Xbox One file system needing to check every single file on the storage pools. If you have a lot of content then the HDD is busy reading/writing and that's why you can't do things like launch games, have laggy menu response times and images not loading etc because the drives are running at 100% searching everything.


I have 2TB's and the internal of my One X all full, so thats 3 TB's and when I swap in and out the full 1TB external they pop up as soon as I plug them in.... :?:

If you have a 20TB drive full of stuff then fair enough.

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PostRe: Xbox Chat - October Dashboard Update starts rolling out today.
by BID0 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:41 am

Photek wrote:
BID0 wrote:Photek we have more content on our Xbox's than you that's why the updates always kill our systems for the first few days and yours is buttery smooth.

The problem stems from the Xbox One file system needing to check every single file on the storage pools. If you have a lot of content then the HDD is busy reading/writing and that's why you can't do things like launch games, have laggy menu response times and images not loading etc because the drives are running at 100% searching everything.


I have 2TB's and the internal of my One X all full, so thats 3 TB's and when I swap in and out the full 1TB external they pop up as soon as I plug them in.... :?:

If you have a 20TB drive full of stuff then fair enough.

It's not file size, it's quantity that's the problem. A 100GB game takes as long to check as a 30MB add on.

You probably have like 100-200 games and maybe 60 add ons? I have about 20 games installed on my internal and 1,500+ addons

The Xbox One OS, and by extension the Series OS, isn't designed for huge amounts of content. The internal SSD on the Series consoles should alleviate the problem with the OS though.


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