Xbox Series X - The Worlds Most Powerful Console. Phil Spencer IGN interview (p21)

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by Photek » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:09 am

I’d like a date for this Digital Event, I presume they have all the footage near to done.. maybe? They start E3 meetings in like January.

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by Peter Crisp » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:11 am

BID0 wrote:I'm lucky in that my TV has an optical output so I could do it that way (HDMI to TV then optical to surround sound), although that would add quite a bit of latency I suspect and make some types of games unplayable.


Feel free to call me an idiot here but isn't the whole point of optical that it's light so travels at light speed so adding a few feet of cable shouldn't add any perceptible time?
I suppose I'm lucky in that as a headphone user I should be fine and in fact hopefully I can finally use my fancy pants Sony wireless headphones as the PS4 or Xbox doesn't accept them.

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by Buffalo » Wed Mar 18, 2020 11:13 am

BID0 wrote:I'm lucky in that my TV has an optical output so I could do it that way (HDMI to TV then optical to surround sound), although that would add quite a bit of latency I suspect and make some types of games unplayable.


Is that definitely the case? My telly has an optical port I think, but if there’s going to be audio lag then it’s a waste of time.

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by BID0 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 12:53 pm

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BID0 wrote:I'm lucky in that my TV has an optical output so I could do it that way (HDMI to TV then optical to surround sound), although that would add quite a bit of latency I suspect and make some types of games unplayable.


Is that definitely the case? My telly has an optical port I think, but if there’s going to be audio lag then it’s a waste of time.

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BID0 wrote:I'm lucky in that my TV has an optical output so I could do it that way (HDMI to TV then optical to surround sound), although that would add quite a bit of latency I suspect and make some types of games unplayable.


Feel free to call me an idiot here but isn't the whole point of optical that it's light so travels at light speed so adding a few feet of cable shouldn't add any perceptible time?
I suppose I'm lucky in that as a headphone user I should be fine and in fact hopefully I can finally use my fancy pants Sony wireless headphones as the PS4 or Xbox doesn't accept them.

It will ultimately depend on how the signal is handled between each device for how much delay is added, but whatever happens there will be delay because something can't just appear somewhere else instantly. At least until a teleporter is invented.

If the audio from the console to the TV via HDMI and then from the TV to the speakers (optical) remains in digital form from end to end then there will be a delay (because it's passing through longer cables and the devices themselves need to pass the signal on to the next, perhaps through multiple circuit boards.

If the signal converts to analog at any point before the speakers convert the final output to analog then they'll be bigger delays because it would need to be converted back to digital during it's journey

It would affect games that require quick responses via audio, such a rhythm games. Shootey bang bang CoD games not so much. For audio, this generation (X1 and PS4) was actually a step back compared to last gen because of the removal of analog audio output from the consoles (being digital only the audio has to be converted to analog at some point so we can hear it, that process incurs time). It added latency to the audio outputs compared to the options we had on 360 and PS3. The potential removal of the optical output on the new Xbox would again set audio latency back further depending on your setup at home.

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PostRe: Xbox Series X - Power Your Dreams. "exciting new features, showing never-before-seen demos" on Thursday (p17)
by Jenuall » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:10 pm

Yeah it has been confirmed that the XSX has no SPDIF output so anyone with optical audio connections will need to work out an alternate solution.

via WindowsCentral:

Some users noticed in today's footage of the Xbox Series X that the SPDIF optical audio port was missing on some of the pictures. We reached out to Microsoft for comment, and a spokesperson confirmed to us that indeed, the SPDIF optical audio port will not be available on the retail units.

"No. Xbox Series X will include ports for Networking (Ethernet), HDMI out, Seagate Storage Expansion Card and three USB 3.1 ports."

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by Somebody Else's Problem » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:23 pm

Photek wrote:I’d like a date for this Digital Event


OK, but you're paying half, and I expect a blowjob after.

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PostRe: Xbox Series X - Power Your Dreams. "exciting new features, showing never-before-seen demos" on Thursday (p17)
by rinks » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:39 pm

Always assumed this would be the case, but it’s good to have it confirmed. (The second tweet.)


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by BID0 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:44 pm

rinks wrote:Always assumed this would be the case, but it’s good to have it confirmed. (The second tweet.)


That's just for media and BC games (like I said before a few pages ago)

If you want to expand your storage to run the X games from, you'll need to use the proprietary storage

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by Peter Crisp » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:52 pm

I assume they'll be on sale at launch. I wonder how much of a discount they got to manufacture them by ordering in what I assume is bulk.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by Photek » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:53 pm

Peter Crisp wrote:I assume they'll be on sale at launch. I wonder how much of a discount they got to manufacture them by ordering in what I assume is bulk.

They'll cost between €150-€200 I reckon.

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by Peter Crisp » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:58 pm

I think I'll just slum it with the base console at launch then and use an SSD I have now as just a place to store stuff and then transfer it when I want to actually use a game.

jiggles wrote:Nobody with a VR headset is going to be using it regularly this time next year, let alone in 4 years time.


Posted 16th March 2016. Let's see.
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by BID0 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:00 pm

I'm just about coping with the storage the X1X comes with and I think next gen games should actually be smaller or at least the same size. Currently data is replicated to increase read times (just like it is on CD/DVD media) and so a lot of that junk data can be removed as the new gen games in theory are designed for this new propriety storage medium.

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by rinks » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:01 pm

BID0 wrote:
rinks wrote:Always assumed this would be the case, but it’s good to have it confirmed. (The second tweet.)


That's just for media and BC games (like I said before a few pages ago)

If you want to expand your storage to run the X games from, you'll need to use the proprietary storage


Oh yes, I realise that. Just good to know that I won’t need to use up the limited internal storage by having to transfer existing games.

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by jawa4 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:04 pm

I know this is silly, but... dang, MS have some lousy console names nowdays. "Xbox" is cool but "Xbox One" was a bit pony and "Xbox Series X" is perhaps worse. Everyone is gonna call it "Xbox" and I would have loved it if they had just gone with that.

Oh, and I'm not trying to do some SDF work here. "PSone" was super-rubbish naming, too, albeit maybe acceptable as the PS2 was planned.

Of course, "Wii U " was fantastic naming :datass: ...

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by Photek » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:14 pm

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by DarkRula » Wed Mar 18, 2020 2:18 pm

Jawa being the genius behind the WiiU name confirmed.

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by BID0 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:49 pm

jawa4 wrote:I know this is silly, but... dang, MS have some lousy console names nowdays. "Xbox" is cool but "Xbox One" was a bit pony and "Xbox Series X" is perhaps worse. Everyone is gonna call it "Xbox" and I would have loved it if they had just gone with that.

Oh, and I'm not trying to do some SDF work here. "PSone" was super-rubbish naming, too, albeit maybe acceptable as the PS2 was planned.

Of course, "Wii U " was fantastic naming :datass: ...

PSone was the rounded redesigned PSX that came out after the PS2.

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by Victor Mildew » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:03 pm

BID0 wrote:
jawa4 wrote:I know this is silly, but... dang, MS have some lousy console names nowdays. "Xbox" is cool but "Xbox One" was a bit pony and "Xbox Series X" is perhaps worse. Everyone is gonna call it "Xbox" and I would have loved it if they had just gone with that.

Oh, and I'm not trying to do some SDF work here. "PSone" was super-rubbish naming, too, albeit maybe acceptable as the PS2 was planned.

Of course, "Wii U " was fantastic naming :datass: ...

PSone was the rounded redesigned PSX that came out after the PS2.


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PostRe: Xbox Series X - Power Your Dreams. "exciting new features, showing never-before-seen demos" on Thursday (p17)
by Tomous » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:50 pm

I mean, Jawa is right, their naming is terrible. I get the need to avoid sounding inferior to the Playstation in terms of numbering-I believe that would make a least some difference to the average parent buying a console for their child, but they could have just called it the Xbox 5, counting the Xbox One X as number 4, so they were aligned with Sony.

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PostRe: Xbox Series X - Power Your Dreams. "exciting new features, showing never-before-seen demos" on Thursday (p17)
by rinks » Wed Mar 18, 2020 5:40 pm

As Jawa said, everyone is going to just call it Xbox. But I kind of get the impression that that’s the intent.


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