Xbox Series X|S Thread - Power Your Dreams.

Photek wrote:

Jenuall wrote:I'm not convinced they're going full stadia on the Series S and having it only be a streaming device. Hasn't all the information to date just pointed at it being a 1080P version of the Series X?

Yes.

Any idea's of 'streaming only' Xbox is more akin to Google Chrome, as in you plug it directly to TV.

I'm gonna say Series X €500, Series S €250.

If they go nuts it might be €400 and €200 but I can't see that happening.

They could launch a Series S without a controller for cheaper...

One X was £300, so I doubt Series S will be less than that unless MS cut stuff out of the box like the controller. Sony's digital model, which will be £400 has really got MS in trouble imo.

gamerforever wrote:

Photek wrote:

Jenuall wrote:I'm not convinced they're going full stadia on the Series S and having it only be a streaming device. Hasn't all the information to date just pointed at it being a 1080P version of the Series X?

Yes.

Any idea's of 'streaming only' Xbox is more akin to Google Chrome, as in you plug it directly to TV.

I'm gonna say Series X €500, Series S €250.

If they go nuts it might be €400 and €200 but I can't see that happening.

They could launch a Series S without a controller for cheaper...

One X was £300, so I doubt Series S will be less than that unless MS cut stuff out of the box like the controller. Sony's digital model, which will be £400 has really got MS in trouble imo.

Peter Crisp wrote:

Carlos wrote:

Monkey Man wrote:The Series X & Series S controllers are the same. Looks like different colours at launch though. Maybe they're being released on Sep 15th along with the xCloud beta launch.

I'm sticking my neck out and predicting the Xbox Series S will be a £99 box that just plays games over xCloud with maybe some local storage for app downloads.

I'd also bet they're going to throw it in for 'free' with a £15/m All Access sub.

That would be pretty incredible value for anyone with a 1080p tv.

Exactly. It would be an incredible leg-up on Sony. Microsoft barely sold 500k XBOAD consoles last Christmas. Stats dictate there really isn't a market for a digital-download-only console but one priced at £99 that can access Gamepass *plus existing Xbox purchases* via streaming might be cheap enough to take hold.

Photek wrote:

Robbo-92 wrote:

Photek wrote:

Monkey Man wrote:The Series X & Series S controllers are the same. Looks like different colours at launch though. Maybe they're being released on Sep 15th along with the xCloud beta launch.

Apparently the Series S just looks like a White Xbox One X.

I wonder if that’s the case then they’ll just leave a disc drive in it anyway? Not like it’s too tricky to fit one in that box and as they seem happy to cover a reasonable chunk of any extra costs themselves it’d seem sensible, not like the all digital One S was loads cheaper either.

Well, i think you misunderstand, I don't think its the same Size as an Xbox One X, in fact, most 'rumours' suggest its rather small, like really small.

Ah I thought you meant it was basically a recoloured Xbox One X with updated internals, fair enough if its going to be vastly smaller then ditch the disc drive.

Carlos wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Carlos wrote:

Monkey Man wrote:The Series X & Series S controllers are the same. Looks like different colours at launch though. Maybe they're being released on Sep 15th along with the xCloud beta launch.

I'm sticking my neck out and predicting the Xbox Series S will be a £99 box that just plays games over xCloud with maybe some local storage for app downloads.

I'd also bet they're going to throw it in for 'free' with a £15/m All Access sub.

That would be pretty incredible value for anyone with a 1080p tv.

Exactly. It would be an incredible leg-up on Sony. Microsoft barely sold 500k XBOAD consoles last Christmas. Stats dictate there really isn't a market for a digital-download-only console but one priced at £99 that can access Gamepass *plus existing Xbox purchases* via streaming might be cheap enough to take hold.

What’s the point in spending money on R&D, creating hardware to sell for a tiny margin (if you’re lucky) to end up with an end product that everyone already owns (a phone, tablet, computer, laptop, TV etc)?

A streaming console will not work for 20+ years. Whilst our internet is not the best, it is better than in the US, where they all have capped speeds and allowances. Lockhart will be a 4tf box for £300 to £350 imo and target the casuals. I personally don’t see it as my third console, and would prefer to get the series x for the best multiplatform versions.

Carlos wrote:

Peter Crisp wrote:

Carlos wrote:

Monkey Man wrote:The Series X & Series S controllers are the same. Looks like different colours at launch though. Maybe they're being released on Sep 15th along with the xCloud beta launch.

I'm sticking my neck out and predicting the Xbox Series S will be a £99 box that just plays games over xCloud with maybe some local storage for app downloads.

I'd also bet they're going to throw it in for 'free' with a £15/m All Access sub.

That would be pretty incredible value for anyone with a 1080p tv.

Exactly. It would be an incredible leg-up on Sony. Microsoft barely sold 500k XBOAD consoles last Christmas. Stats dictate there really isn't a market for a digital-download-only console but one priced at £99 that can access Gamepass *plus existing Xbox purchases* via streaming might be cheap enough to take hold.

That article is nothing to do with last Christmas though?

The Xbox One in general has not been a barnstormer sales wise to it's hard to tell if the introduction of the All-Digital edition had much impact either way. Also coming 6 years into the lifespan of the machine it was never like to see millions of people suddenly rush out to buy it

I'd probably get my daughter a Series S down the line as she only has a 1080p TV anyway and we play lots of games online together so waiting for her X to load in some games would be an annoyance.

I will say this: MS has really got itself in a muddle with the branding of these consoles.

XBox One XBox One S XBox One X XBox Series S XBox Series X.

It's not great.

Poser wrote:I will say this: MS has really got itself in a muddle with the branding of these consoles.

XBox One XBox One S XBox One X XBox Series S XBox Series X.

It's not great.

They only making 3 now and then I can see XOS dropped next year, down to just 2.

I’ve repeatedly had to stop myself from writing “Xbox One Series”, but with only 2 machines likely to be on sale at the majority of retailers come Christmas it should stop MS from running into the same issues Nintendo found themselves in with Wii/Wii U.

Photek wrote:

Poser wrote:I will say this: MS has really got itself in a muddle with the branding of these consoles.

XBox One XBox One S XBox One X XBox Series S XBox Series X.

It's not great.

They only making 3 now and then I can see XOS dropped next year, down to just 2.

Which is fair, though that hasn't erased the others from history. I'm a reasonably switched-on person, but I have to pause every time I read something about an XBox console to work out which they're on about. I do understand why they couldn't stick to a numerical system, because they'd always have been one lower than the equivalent PlayStation, but it's still a mess.

Poser wrote:

Photek wrote:

Poser wrote:I will say this: MS has really got itself in a muddle with the branding of these consoles.

XBox One XBox One S XBox One X XBox Series S XBox Series X.

It's not great.

They only making 3 now and then I can see XOS dropped next year, down to just 2.

Which is fair, though that hasn't erased the others from history. I'm a reasonably switched-on person, but I have to pause every time I read something about an XBox console to work out which they're on about. I do understand why they couldn't stick to a numerical system, because they'd always have been one lower than the equivalent PlayStation, but it's still a mess.

Don't you just call it Xbox or PlayStation like a normal person?

There was a poll posted here a few years ago, UK consumers were calling a games console an Xbox whether it was a PlayStation or a Nintendo.

I suspect there are going to be a lot of disappointed kids at Christmas due to the bizarre naming convention MS have adpoted. There will be a good few One S consoles being gifted instead of Series S consoles if that's what the name turns out to be.

I tried explaining the One S / One X / Series S / Series X naming convention to my relatively tech-savvy wife yesterday, and even she wasn't 100%.

It's a concern for sure

As I said though, in a year max you'll only be able to get a Series S or X.

Poser wrote:

Photek wrote:

Poser wrote:I will say this: MS has really got itself in a muddle with the branding of these consoles.

XBox One XBox One S XBox One X XBox Series S XBox Series X.

It's not great.

They only making 3 now and then I can see XOS dropped next year, down to just 2.

Which is fair, though that hasn't erased the others from history. I'm a reasonably switched-on person, but I have to pause every time I read something about an XBox console to work out which they're on about. I do understand why they couldn't stick to a numerical system, because they'd always have been one lower than the equivalent PlayStation, but it's still a mess.

They could have called the Xbox One X the 4th Xbox and gone with Xbox 5 this generation.

They had a load of names in the running and none of them made it in. Xbox Elite, Infinite, Alta, Aura and Helix were all being discussed in August last year.

I think any of those would have been better. Except 'Elite' since that was already used for both the 360 and the current high-end controller.

I understand why they couldn't go with the numerical naming convention, but there is no reason they couldn't do a Sega and have a completely separate name for each console generation. I was going to name-drop Nintendo in there too but then I remembered about the Wii U and how that worked out for them.

They could have even worked around the numerical issue by skipping a number like MS Windows OS.