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Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:01 am
by Garth
LewisD wrote:Re: The Xbox All Access deal, with Klarna and 24 months of Game Pass.

Is this likely to be a launch-window only type of deal, or likely to be an ongoing thing?

It's an ongoing thing.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 11:03 am
by Peter Crisp
Denster wrote:On warzone. It's the cheats and hackers that have drawn ire. The Pc gamers are the culprits.
Absolutely no issues playing against xbox guys.
Keyboard and mouse speed is never the issue. It's the cheating little bitches that ruin it.


On R6 siege on PS4 the main problem is people ddos the server and just screw the game for everyone.

That and the vote to kick feature which is only in casual :fp: . It's a place to have fun, relax and new players to learn the game but the amount of times people vote to kick because someone didn't kill the entire enemy team by themselves when they all got themselves killed is amazing.

There's ranked and unranked for serious games but nope, they have to come into quick play and either steamroll casual players (it's like Liverpool turning up to a noneleague game) or just teamkill for no reason or kick people.

We rarely see actual cheaters.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:08 pm
by Lagamorph
I'm expecting even worse carnage for this than for the PS5. Wouldn't surprise me if people who were originally going for PS5 and missed out decide to go for Xbox instead so increase demand even more when pre-orders go live.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:10 pm
by JChalmers
Is there a time preorders are going live? Dreading having to find a website that doesn't crash to preorder. Especially as I want to get it from Smyths, Game or Argos ideally :fp:

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:21 pm
by GrinWithoutaKat
JChalmers wrote:Is there a time preorders are going live? Dreading having to find a website that doesn't crash to preorder. Especially as I want to get it from Smyths, Game or Argos ideally :fp:


8am apparently. Wonder if others will go early like they've seemingly done with PS5.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:35 pm
by PatSharpsMullet
JChalmers wrote:Is there a time preorders are going live? Dreading having to find a website that doesn't crash to preorder. Especially as I want to get it from Smyths, Game or Argos ideally :fp:

Smyths didn't crash at all yesterday so they might be the safest bet. They only take the money 2-7 days before despatch too whereas Argos take it immediately. Also, Argos use Hermes so it will either be delivered to someone else, thrown over a wall, or not even put on the delivery van because they have too much to deliver.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 12:48 pm
by Lagamorph
PatSharpsMullet wrote:
JChalmers wrote:Is there a time preorders are going live? Dreading having to find a website that doesn't crash to preorder. Especially as I want to get it from Smyths, Game or Argos ideally :fp:

Smyths didn't crash at all yesterday so they might be the safest bet. They only take the money 2-7 days before despatch too whereas Argos take it immediately. Also, Argos use Hermes so it will either be delivered to someone else, thrown over a wall, or not even put on the delivery van because they have too much to deliver.

To be fair they didn't crash because most people didn't know they were taking pre-orders early so their site wasn't getting hammered anything like the ones this morning have been.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 1:37 pm
by Garth
Series S Game Sizes Will Be Smaller Than on Series X

In an interview with IGN, Xbox director of program management Jason Ronald confirmed that game install sizes will be approximately 30% smaller on the Series S than on the Series X. This is due to the reduced resolution texture packages needed for games on the Series S, which will be targeting 1440p resolution instead of 4K on the Series X.

“With a performance target of 1440p at 60 fps, our expectation is that developers will not ship their highest level mipmaps to Xbox Series S, which will reduce the size of the games,” Ronald said. “Ultimately the controls in the developer's hands. We've had this technology for a while that allows developers to intelligently choose which assets to install on which device they're playing on. So the flexibility is in the developers’ hands to make sure the right assets are there.”

https://www.ign.com/articles/xbox-serie ... n-series-x

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:18 pm
by Monkey Man

twitter.com/shinobi602/status/1306580947236786176


Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:24 pm
by Frank
Can you download the series s versions on series x if you haven't yet got a 4K TV but want a disc drive? :shifty:

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:32 pm
by Jenuall
Series S is still the only one of the next gen options that appeals to me in the immediate short term, the price and offering in terms of games and specs is just about right I think.

If the S is still available around Christmas time I can see me being tempted by a purchase

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 2:58 pm
by JChalmers
PatSharpsMullet wrote:
JChalmers wrote:Is there a time preorders are going live? Dreading having to find a website that doesn't crash to preorder. Especially as I want to get it from Smyths, Game or Argos ideally :fp:

Smyths didn't crash at all yesterday so they might be the safest bet. They only take the money 2-7 days before despatch too whereas Argos take it immediately. Also, Argos use Hermes so it will either be delivered to someone else, thrown over a wall, or not even put on the delivery van because they have too much to deliver.


Cheers, with Argos I was hoping to do a collect from Store as I've got one in my local Sainsburys 10mins away from me so wouldn't have to worry about the Hermes issues. Smyths local store is about 15mins so that's not an issue either. Think it'll be midnight checking websites and then if not make sure i'm up early on Tuesday to get a preorder sorted.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 3:12 pm
by Venom
Mafro wrote:
The Alchemist Penguin wrote:
Venom wrote:I was thinking about trading both my consoles at the end of June to get the best price but thought it silly to be without a console for five months!

The Alchemist Penguin wrote:With such good back compat support, my plan was to trade in the previous consoles. Game are currently offering £220 for an Xbox One X, which is quite a tasty saving! Slightly terrified I'll trade stuff in and they'll go belly up though. :dread:


Is that Xbox One X price £220 cash, or money off a new console purchase?


It's £220 in credit, so either towards a new console or games, etc. The website says that you can get £198 cash for it though, which is also pretty good. That price depends on the condition of the console, if you've got the box, and all of that stuff though!

That's a great price considering Amazon were selling refurb One X for £175 the other week.



Last night I wiped and boxed my Xbox One X and took it into my local Game today, it was in such good nick the guy thought it was new. I took the credit and preordered some PS5 accessories. £220 is the best I think you can ask for on eBay minus selling costs, and I suspect the price will drop more when Series preorders go live and more units flood the market. Thank you guys, that was a nice win.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 5:35 pm
by Monkey Man
Interview about the design of the consoles -

Exclusive: With the new Xbox, Microsoft unveils affordable design for the masses

“We think about our console as part of the environment you live in as our customer,” says Phil Spencer, executive vice president of gaming at Microsoft. “While there’s an opening of the box and you want that to be fantastic, once you put that console wherever you put it, we hope you never have to touch it again, hope you never have to hear from it again, and it just plays great games. . . . It’s not the center of attention.”

The engineering team had the notion, however, that the next Xbox could split the motherboard into two pieces (incidentally, the folding Motorola Razr remake launched in 2019 does the same thing). Such an architecture could fit inside a box that was thicker but less wide, kind of like we already see in hulking tower PCs. A single tornado of air could spin up through its center to cool the chips—which in turn would be able to produce 12 teraflops of processing power (2 teraflops more than the upcoming PS5). Little surprise, this mockup was dubbed “Tower,” according to Chris Kujawski, the Microsoft design principal who led the Xbox project.

“Eventually we get to the point where we have to make a decision. These will generally all work . . . we know they’ll cost about the same. But what we really wanna know is whether this is exciting and interesting to customers,” says Kujawski. So small teams of designers and user researchers took these models into customers’ homes in L.A., New York, and Chicago.

“We’d line up 10-12 in home visits. We talk about gaming in general, how they use their console, high-level stuff . . . then we always took measurements of their room, how far they sat from the TV, and temperature readings for a thermal study,” says Kujawski. “Then we’d unveil these crude boxes . . . without much context other than, if this were the shape of the next-gen console, what do you think?”

The tower won. Not just because its monolithic design was visually compelling, but because of proportions that are more practical than you might expect. It’s a big box in your hands, yes, akin to the size of a commercial toaster. But because it’s not extreme in any one dimension, it can fit on a shelf that’s a mere 8-inches deep.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90551216/ex ... the-masses

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Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:00 pm
by PatSharpsMullet
JChalmers wrote:
PatSharpsMullet wrote:
JChalmers wrote:Is there a time preorders are going live? Dreading having to find a website that doesn't crash to preorder. Especially as I want to get it from Smyths, Game or Argos ideally :fp:

Smyths didn't crash at all yesterday so they might be the safest bet. They only take the money 2-7 days before despatch too whereas Argos take it immediately. Also, Argos use Hermes so it will either be delivered to someone else, thrown over a wall, or not even put on the delivery van because they have too much to deliver.


Cheers, with Argos I was hoping to do a collect from Store as I've got one in my local Sainsburys 10mins away from me so wouldn't have to worry about the Hermes issues. Smyths local store is about 15mins so that's not an issue either. Think it'll be midnight checking websites and then if not make sure i'm up early on Tuesday to get a preorder sorted.

Argos don't do collection for pre-orders, only home delivery.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 6:06 pm
by Robbo-92
Dam I was hoping to do similar with Argos, looks like I’ll just keep mine with ShopTo if I’m early enough in the queue then.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:00 pm
by Rocsteady
Monkey Man wrote:Interview about the design of the consoles -

Exclusive: With the new Xbox, Microsoft unveils affordable design for the masses

“We think about our console as part of the environment you live in as our customer,” says Phil Spencer, executive vice president of gaming at Microsoft. “While there’s an opening of the box and you want that to be fantastic, once you put that console wherever you put it, we hope you never have to touch it again, hope you never have to hear from it again, and it just plays great games. . . . It’s not the center of attention.”

The engineering team had the notion, however, that the next Xbox could split the motherboard into two pieces (incidentally, the folding Motorola Razr remake launched in 2019 does the same thing). Such an architecture could fit inside a box that was thicker but less wide, kind of like we already see in hulking tower PCs. A single tornado of air could spin up through its center to cool the chips—which in turn would be able to produce 12 teraflops of processing power (2 teraflops more than the upcoming PS5). Little surprise, this mockup was dubbed “Tower,” according to Chris Kujawski, the Microsoft design principal who led the Xbox project.

“Eventually we get to the point where we have to make a decision. These will generally all work . . . we know they’ll cost about the same. But what we really wanna know is whether this is exciting and interesting to customers,” says Kujawski. So small teams of designers and user researchers took these models into customers’ homes in L.A., New York, and Chicago.

“We’d line up 10-12 in home visits. We talk about gaming in general, how they use their console, high-level stuff . . . then we always took measurements of their room, how far they sat from the TV, and temperature readings for a thermal study,” says Kujawski. “Then we’d unveil these crude boxes . . . without much context other than, if this were the shape of the next-gen console, what do you think?”

The tower won. Not just because its monolithic design was visually compelling, but because of proportions that are more practical than you might expect. It’s a big box in your hands, yes, akin to the size of a commercial toaster. But because it’s not extreme in any one dimension, it can fit on a shelf that’s a mere 8-inches deep.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90551216/ex ... the-masses

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That's an interesting post, thanks.

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:00 pm
by Monkey Man

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2020 9:10 pm
by JChalmers
PatSharpsMullet wrote:
JChalmers wrote:
PatSharpsMullet wrote:
JChalmers wrote:Is there a time preorders are going live? Dreading having to find a website that doesn't crash to preorder. Especially as I want to get it from Smyths, Game or Argos ideally :fp:

Smyths didn't crash at all yesterday so they might be the safest bet. They only take the money 2-7 days before despatch too whereas Argos take it immediately. Also, Argos use Hermes so it will either be delivered to someone else, thrown over a wall, or not even put on the delivery van because they have too much to deliver.


Cheers, with Argos I was hoping to do a collect from Store as I've got one in my local Sainsburys 10mins away from me so wouldn't have to worry about the Hermes issues. Smyths local store is about 15mins so that's not an issue either. Think it'll be midnight checking websites and then if not make sure i'm up early on Tuesday to get a preorder sorted.

Argos don't do collection for pre-orders, only home delivery.


Ah cheers for the heads up. Looks like its Smyths then, that or a dreaded trip into GAME to preorder it instore ....shudder....

Re: Xbox Series X/S Thread - Out 10 November for £449/£249. Pre-orders start 22nd Sep.

Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:32 am
by Monkey Man
As revealed on Twitter, pre-orders for the £249 Series S and £449 Series X will go live at 8am, 22nd September, across participating stores. Those, should you have a retailer of preference (or should your retailer of preference run out of units, forcing you into a wild, scrambling spree elsewhere) include:

AO.com
Amazon
Argos
Currys PC World
GAME
John Lewis & Partners
Microsoft Store
ShopTo.net
SimplyGames
Smyths Toys
Tesco
Very.co.uk

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020 ... sday-in-uk
https://twitter.com/xboxuk/status/13063 ... 51970?s=20