XBOX360 successor at E3 2012

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Beans » Wed Jun 15, 2011 6:55 am

Hopefully it won't look as gooseberry fool as the wii u.

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Frank » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:28 am

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by NickSCFC » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:14 pm

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Shadow wrote:I have heard rumblings that Halo 4 will be a launch game for the Nextbox. So E3 next year reveal and then release next Christmas?


10 minutes later...

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Hmm, still seems to soon.

EA have even said today they're in no rush for the next gen.

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Beans » Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:18 pm

Frank wrote:
Oblomov Boblomov wrote:Beans: the man who hates everything - even bread


Hopefully I won't hate the Xbox 360 successor :mrgreen:

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Garth » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:03 pm

A similar rumour:
Microsoft to unveil new Xbox at E3 2012

A source with knowledge of Microsoft’s plans within the company’s Entertainment and Devices Division has confirmed with BGR that Microsoft intends to unveil its next-generation Xbox console at E3 2012 next summer. The source is not aware of Microsoft’s launch plans for the new Xbox, which we are told has been in development since 2006.

http://www.bgr.com/2011/06/27/microsoft ... t-e3-2012/

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Something Fishy » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:21 pm

It would make sense. The 360 is winding down now then.

I wonder when PS4 will launch if it does. 2013?

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by NickSCFC » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:35 pm

Something Fishy wrote:It would make sense. The 360 is winding down now then.

I wonder when PS4 will launch if it does. 2013?


I'll stick with my previous guesses...

Wii U - 2012
Xbox 3 - 2013
PS4 - 2014

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by The Alchemist Penguin » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:55 pm

Something Fishy wrote:It would make sense. The 360 is winding down now then.

I wonder when PS4 will launch if it does. 2013?


I could see, perhaps, the PS4 launching a year after the 360-2, using the year to essentially refine whatever tech the X360 is using. Sony got off to a very rocky start, and despite being hit by quite a few issues (bad ports, psn hacks, generally not as good online etc...) they've really managed to hold their own. Vita seems to show a company that has really revitalised itself, and so they could come out of the gate with the PS4, giving themselves time to "counter" whatever the X360 has tech wise, and put up quite a fight.

It'll be an interesting generation to see because, personally, I don't think it will have much to do with "power" this time. Nintendo will be pushing the Wii U controller, Microsoft will leverage Kinect and improved online/social interaction (and perhaps more), but Sony don't really have a unique selling point of their own yet. Move always looked like "A Wii Remote 2.0", and especially next to the Kinect lacked the wow factor, so presumably they'll be hard at work of something of their own. Vita shows they could certainly manage it, and I expect the PS4 to have a much more solid OS right out of the gate, at the very least.

It's very exciting times, although I do wish the next-gen wasn't coming quite so soon. I was quite happy where we were and thought the Wii was the only console that really needed an upgrade. I have a feeling big changes are in store for the next-generation, in a response to the massively increased market, a need to control costs, and the increased competition from various other forms of emerging gaming devices.

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Something Fishy » Mon Jun 27, 2011 9:56 pm

Could be right.

If Halo 4 is a launch title though then 720 will be next Christmas. Should be an interesting year with lots going on next year.

I kind of agree that we didn't really need to move on yet TAP but i'm certainly interested to see what they do. I reckon you're right that it'll be very different.

They're all in good shape now and it looks like we're set for a genuine 3 player market going forward.

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Peter Crisp » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:03 pm

I hope they don't follow Nintendo's example and forget about system performance.

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by The Alchemist Penguin » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:05 pm

That is another possibility.

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by NickSCFC » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:20 pm

If they're not going to make a generation leap over the 360 then they can f*ck right off! I'm not upgrading to another console unless it can give me photorealism.

If they do what Nintendo did with the Wii then they'll get exactly what they got off me, strawberry float all!

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Rik » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:26 pm

I think Nextbox will be a big leap over 360/PS3/Wii U personally, the most important aspect to Microsoft is moving that subscription based online userbase over which is why the console has to be at least able to take all your XBLA titles over. Hopefully the fusion AMD GPU/CPU will keep the price down as they will want to undercut Sony again who probably can't afford a launch until at least 2014.

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by BID0 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:30 pm

I need to be able to take all of my Rock Band songs with me, and a new Rock Band on the platform and I'll buy one day one :wub:

Did XBOX1 have any DLC? Did that work on 360?

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by NickSCFC » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:33 pm

They need to allow ALL saves, games, XBLA and DLC to be transferable, otherwise their future download plans are dead in the water!

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Rik » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:34 pm

Your Gamertag carried over, nothing else from what I can remember. XBLA was a seperate disc on the original Xbox though, it's vital that they let you carry all your DLC etc over this time.

Also HDD in every machine this time please, hopefully 1tb at launch.

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Codename 47 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:39 pm

Without sounding like a "graphics-whore" i can't wait to see what the next generation of games will look like. Will that Unreal tech demo that Epic showed off a few months back be the expected standard for the next gen? I imagine the next gen consoles will be able to run the Frostbite, Cryengine, etc at their peaks so to speak. But with games being very very expensive to make as it is at the moment, will this impact the sort of technological leap we end up seeing?

I'd put my money on one of the launch titles being Project Gotham Racing 5. Has Halo 4 been confirmed for the Xbox 360? Could they maybe even release it on both?

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by BID0 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:43 pm

More controllers would be good. I laughed at the PS3 having 7 (which is a random number) but the 360 held Rock Band 3 back bit in that respect :(

Oh and a new Mass Effect trilogy plz :wub:

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by NickSCFC » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:46 pm

I don't see this development cost problem, on more powerful consoles devs won't have to downgrade their original art assets and squeeze them into low-res textures. It doesn't cost a dev more to make a game 1080p instead of 720p either.

Sure when someone raises the bar and makes everyone else's graphics look rubbish it has an effect, but no one's forced to make games with better graphics. Saying that, I bet everyone ends up using LA Noire's facial capture tech for new games.

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PostRe: XBOX360 successor at E3 2012
by Rik » Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:47 pm

Will that Unreal tech demo that Epic showed off a few months back be the expected standard for the next gen?


Wasn't that running on three top end PC cards? I doubt it will be cost effective to get that level even by 2013, would be great if it was possible though.

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