*KARL JOBST THREAD* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal

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PostRe: The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Moggy » Sun Dec 03, 2023 9:38 pm

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Squinty wrote:It's also worrying how invested people become YouTubers. They are not your friends.


:(


There's a difference between the social relationship we have over the forum and the parasocial relationship people have with youtube creators and streamers.


Tell that to the people who gave Fanboy money for a PSP.

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PostRe: The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Pedz » Sun Dec 03, 2023 10:07 pm

I have made friends on Twitch and met up with them in real life :(

I've actually met more people via Twitch than from here.

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PostRe: The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Vermilion » Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:39 am

Pedz wrote:I've actually met more people via Twitch than from here.


I've met no one from here, or twitch. 8-)

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PostRe: The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Qikz » Mon Dec 04, 2023 7:48 am

Pedz wrote:I have made friends on Twitch and met up with them in real life :(

I've actually met more people via Twitch than from here.


I think you might be in the minority, unless you specifically mean you made friends with smaller streamers which I think is more than possible. Watching smaller streamers is kinda like watching a completely different website. When you start hitting partnered streamers who are hitting 500+ average viewers the chance of that happening is woefully small because at that point most of the streamers have passed the threshold of even attempting to make friends with their viewers and will then instead be using the site to try and get more viewers/make money while keeping an air of friendship without actually caring about any one viewer individually.

I'm sure there are streamers who do care, but to actually become friends you need a good period of interaction with someone and for streamers over a certain level it's just never going to happen I feel.

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PostRe: The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Pedz » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:12 am

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Pedz wrote:I have made friends on Twitch and met up with them in real life :(

I've actually met more people via Twitch than from here.


I think you might be in the minority, unless you specifically mean you made friends with smaller streamers which I think is more than possible. Watching smaller streamers is kinda like watching a completely different website. When you start hitting partnered streamers who are hitting 500+ average viewers the chance of that happening is woefully small because at that point most of the streamers have passed the threshold of even attempting to make friends with their viewers and will then instead be using the site to try and get more viewers/make money while keeping an air of friendship without actually caring about any one viewer individually.

I'm sure there are streamers who do care, but to actually become friends you need a good period of interaction with someone and for streamers over a certain level it's just never going to happen I feel.


Yeah, smaller streamers.

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PostRe: The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Squinty » Mon Dec 04, 2023 8:45 am

Probably should not have made a generalisation like that. It was directed at massive youtubers/streamers.

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PostRe: *$600 has been Donated* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Prototype » Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:33 pm

With nothing more than a whimper from Karl Jobst and Mutahar (SomeOrdinaryGamers), AFTD have posted thanking The Open Hand Foundation for their $600k donation:

https://x.com/AFTDHope/status/1731750273842864515?s=20

Clearly there is still a LOT to answer for here in relation to why the money sat their for so long, but I would've hoped Karl and Mutahar would've followed up?

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PostRe: *$600k has been Donated* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Xeno » Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:43 pm

They are probably looking at the money that is apparently missing such as the golf sponsorship money.

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PostRe: *$600k has been Donated* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Godzilla » Wed Dec 06, 2023 6:47 pm

The lying throughout the streams, even after knowing the facts shows the true face of the completionist. The loss of money due to inflation, the lying to get donations and the golf tournament money are hard to explain away.

I fully expect more stuff to come out in the coming months and also a big crying apology.

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PostRe: The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by rinks » Wed Dec 06, 2023 8:14 pm

Vermilion wrote:
Pedz wrote:I've actually met more people via Twitch than from here.


I've met no one from here, or twitch. 8-)


That’s what you think.

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PostRe: The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Vermilion » Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:04 pm

rinks wrote:
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Pedz wrote:I've actually met more people via Twitch than from here.


I've met no one from here, or twitch. 8-)


That’s what you think.


:dread:

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PostRe: *$600k has been Donated* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Prototype » Sat Dec 09, 2023 10:13 pm

w00p der it is


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PostRe: *JIRARD POSTS VIDEO RESPONSE* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Johnny Ryall » Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:49 pm

It all circles round to it may have been legal but wasn't ethical

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PostRe: *JIRARD POSTS VIDEO RESPONSE* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Prototype » Sun Dec 10, 2023 8:14 am

Yeah, about as unethical as it gets tbh.

He has strawberry floated up, but I think there's a level of sincerety in that video and i think there is a case of defamation to be answered.

Be interesting to see how it plays out - the auditors are coming so we'll find out one way or another if theres illegality.

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PostRe: *JIRARD POSTS VIDEO RESPONSE* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Trelliz » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:22 am

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PostRe: *JIRARD POSTS VIDEO RESPONSE* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Snowcannon » Sun Dec 10, 2023 9:50 am

Ok so maybe Jirard didn’t commit charity fraud (the audit if it comes will hopefully prove this one way or the other).
But it’s still incredibly shitty to let donations sit for 10 years (don’t care how involved the process of choosing a donor is, it’s an absolutely absurd length of time), and then to claim that the donations have actively been donated during his fundraising events. So he’s still a POS.

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PostRe: *JIRARD POSTS VIDEO RESPONSE* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Qikz » Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:23 am

Quote from ERA, but this post sums up the video pretty well so you don't have to watch it

I just watched the video and I'm impressed. It's a great example of a PR crafted statement meant to deflect and portray the subject as the victim. And it's working wonderfully, even among jaded era members lol.

- Make an appeal to the emotional side by telling everyone that you made a great sacrifice by donating your mother's organs to science and research.
- Provide answers and receipts for things nobody was asking for (Who the strawberry float was arguing about whether OHF was a private foundation or a public charity?? obviously that was not the issue at all!)
- Explain why you didn't donate the money until he was called out for it with a "oops, my bad. SOWWY"
- Provide the total amounts fundraised for one specific year, and then get fuzzy about the others (It was COVID, you guys! and then people took so long to send the money we had to declare it the next fiscal year!).
- Casually mention that the Golf Tournament was to "bring awareness" instead of fundraising (all those signs saying it benefitted the OHF were a "clerical error" too, I guess).
- Once again, backtrack about how ALL the money was going to be donated by now claiming that all these events cost a lot, and obviously it had to be paid from the fundraised money (As passionate as Jirard is about this, he seems to be very reluctant to put his own money where his mouth is. It's easier to be charitable with other people's money, I guess)
- Provide some figures about 2023's fundraised money. Still not give an answer about whether they're going to donate this money.
- Claim that all is above board (without providing receipts about this, fancy that) and if there are any "mistakes", they're just "clerical errors". And by the way guys, I'm not in the charity board anymore. But everything is super duper fine and that's not cause for concern at all.
- Get indignant about people besmirching your reputation and your family's good name. Threaten to sue for *checks notes* being accused of not donating fundraised money that he's on record claiming was being donated and *checks notes again* for noting that there are many inconsistencies with the money declared and the actual money fundraised, aka FRAUD.

*Edited for typos and because there were so many hilarious statements that I forgot a few.

This has done very little to convince me of anything, in fact, the very rehearsed and calculated nature of this statement makes me distrust him even more. I think it's smart that he's seeking legal counsel, don't get me wrong, but I also think that the kind of statement that one gives when they truly have nothing to hide and the kind of statement that someone who wants to keep things from coming out gives are really different, and you can guess which kind I think Jirard just made.

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PostRe: *JIRARD POSTS VIDEO RESPONSE* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Jenuall » Sun Dec 10, 2023 10:41 am

Yeah it's a gooseberry fool response and very disappointing that people are falling for it.

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PostRe: *JIRARD POSTS VIDEO RESPONSE* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Snowcannon » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:02 am

Mutahar posted a response video already. Very lengthy because of course lol


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PostRe: *JIRARD POSTS VIDEO RESPONSE* The Completionist allegedly involved in charity scandal
by Prototype » Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:37 am

there's been no charity fraud and all 3 have created this situation to generate copious amounts of adsense revenue

lol


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