Politics Thread 5

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by Benzin » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:16 pm

Something something "experts".

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by Cheeky Devlin » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:17 pm

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by satriales » Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:55 pm

£800k seems a bit much though. It is obvious to anyone that visited the website that this is not a legit company.

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by Moggy » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:16 pm

satriales wrote:£800k seems a bit much though. It is obvious to anyone that visited the website that this is not a legit company.


Anyone maybe.

Obvious to Chris Grayling though? :slol:

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by Lex-Man » Wed Feb 13, 2019 2:25 pm

Moggy wrote:
satriales wrote:£800k seems a bit much though. It is obvious to anyone that visited the website that this is not a legit company.


Anyone maybe.

Obvious to Chris Grayling though? :slol:


Presumably the 800k was for more than the single contract check. I think they awarded three at the same time, so that should be wrapped up in that payment at least.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Moggy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:15 am



A nice romantic message from when Theresa May was in charge of the Home Office :fp:

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by Hyperion » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:19 am

From 2013 so May probably tweeted that herself

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by Errkal » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:41 am

That's how she does foreplay, she tweet that and then sucked off Mr May.

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by Moggy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:57 am

Errkal wrote:That's how she does foreplay, she tweet that and then sucked off Mr May.


And then blamed Amber Rudd for the mess.

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by Knoyleo » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:37 am

Churchill was absolutely a villain, who happened to be on the right side in WW2.

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by Preezy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:40 am

Knoyleo wrote:Churchill was absolutely a villain, who happened to be on the right side in WW2.

But he actually literally punched Hitler in the gob and won WW2 for us, he is literally the greatest ever living Briton who is now dead God rest his literal soul which has probably got "Made in Great Britain" on it, you snowflake banana split.

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by suzzopher » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:44 am

I think that was the day I realised I didn’t belong in my family, I was 17 and came out with “You know, other than WW2 Churchill was a dick” I was asked to leave the Christmas dinner table at this point.

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by Rex Kramer » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:47 am

But someone relatively high up in the opposition shouldn't be airing this if they want to actually win a general election.

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by Moggy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:52 am

Knoyleo wrote:Churchill was absolutely a villain, who happened to be on the right side in WW2.


He can’t be a villain, he was British.

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by Knoyleo » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:53 am

Preezy wrote:
Knoyleo wrote:Churchill was absolutely a villain, who happened to be on the right side in WW2.

But he actually literally punched Hitler in the gob and won WW2 for us, he is literally the greatest ever living Briton who is now dead God rest his literal soul which has probably got "Made in Great Britain" on it, you snowflake banana split.

suzzopher wrote:I think that was the day I realised I didn’t belong in my family, I was 17 and came out with “You know, other than WW2 Churchill was a dick” I was asked to leave the Christmas dinner table at this point.

:lol:

Imagine being a Labour MP and having this gaudy nic-nac of a man who ordered the shooting of striking miners unironically on display.



Rex Kramer wrote:But someone relatively high up in the opposition shouldn't be airing this if they want to actually win a general election.

Britain needs to have a serious introspection about our colonial past, and the harm we've done to the world, and soon. Discussion like this shouldn't be swept under the rug just because it's not going to play well in the S*n.

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by Rex Kramer » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:55 am

Knoyleo wrote:
Rex Kramer wrote:But someone relatively high up in the opposition shouldn't be airing this if they want to actually win a general election.

Britain needs to have a serious introspection about our colonial past, and the harm we've done to the world, and soon. Discussion like this shouldn't be swept under the rug just because it's not going to play well in the S*n.

Maybe but I don't think the majority of the electorate would be interested in that conversation. Maybe in a decade or two.

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by Moggy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:55 am

Knoyleo wrote:[


He fought for the world's freedom*

*unless they were already part of the British Empire and/or a British colony.

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by OrangeRKN » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:59 am

It's almost like all people are complex and flawed and deserving of nuanced characterisation, rather than being venerated or vilified in overly simplistic statements that are easy to make headlines out of.

Churchill was both a bit contemptible (especially in hindsight with modern standards) and also an effective war time leader. He is neither hero or villain.

You'd think a politician would be a bit more aware of how calling him a villain is going to play in both the press and with the general public though.

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by Knoyleo » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:01 am

OrangeRKN wrote:It's almost like all people are complex and flawed and deserving of nuanced characterisation, rather than being venerated or vilified in overly simplistic statements that are easy to make headlines out of.

Churchill was both a bit contemptible (especially in hindsight with modern standards) and also an effective war time leader. He is neither hero or villain.

You'd think a politician would be a bit more aware of how calling him a villain is going to play in both the press and with the general public though.



Also, he absolutely was a villain.

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PostRe: Politics Thread 5
by Moggy » Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:02 am

To be more serious, Churchill is a complex character in history. He was undoubtedly a twat – a racist, a colonialist, very reckless and mostly downright nasty. But I also am not convinced that WW2 would have been won without him. He gets credit for that in my book, but he isn’t somebody that deserves hero worship for anything else he did.


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