The Assassination of Peter Molyneux | RPS Interview

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by Trelliz » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:40 pm

Buffalo wrote:Great counterpoint, 10/10


Ok, I'll try and be a bit more mature.

Sure he has done a lot in the past - Dungeon Keeper, Populous etc., but that was a long-ass time ago, and there has been a LOT of overhype and underdelivering between now and then. As such for a lot of people, including the backers who gave him money to make Godus, that respect has been lost. Its the same with Tim Schaefer and that Spacebase game/Broken Age. You can't take your customers' money and then not deliver without backlash. He had been quite content to not address any of these things for years on end, only coming out and acting like the victim when he was called out; including the guy who got to the centre of the cube and the general lack of development of everything else.

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by Harry Bizzle » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:42 pm

Uncomfortable read, too harsh, and refused to drop points.

Something like this has been a long time coming, though.

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by OrangeRKN » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:50 pm

The interviewer comes across as a complete dick and it only makes me feel more sympathetic towards Molyneux.

As for delays/kickstarter pledges/etc., it was Peter Molyneux, what did you expect to happen

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PostThe Assassination of Peter Molyneux | RPS Interview
by Mafro » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:56 pm

Saw the little games journalist clique on Twitter getting into a tizzy over this earlier. Quite amusing.

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PostThe Assassination of Peter Molyneux | RPS Interview
by Mafro » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:56 pm

Saw the little games journalist clique on Twitter getting into a tizzy over this earlier. Quite amusing.

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by Super Dragon 64 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:58 pm

10/10; would assassinate again.

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by Buffalo » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:14 pm

Oh yeah, the cube guy! He was quite literally forgotten about, he was promised to be some sort of in-game God for a few months but the guy who was responsible for keeping him updated left 22 Cans and wasn't replaced :lol:
The whole idea of Molyneux doing a Kickstarter project was never going to end well.

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by Imrahil » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:23 pm

Utterly shambolic and amateurish interview by Walker. It ended up endearing me more to Molyneux bizarrely - JW sounded like a 6th-form debater foaming at the mouth at times. Was pretty embarrassing to read.

But then it's 'games journalism' so this is to be expected..

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by Rog » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:24 pm

Mafro wrote:Saw the little games journalist clique on Twitter getting into a tizzy over this earlier. Quite amusing.


While it was utterly brutal from the off at least RPS had the balls to do something like this and try to act in the interest of their audience.

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by Saint of Killers » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:45 pm

Peter Molyneux isn't a corrupt banker and the interviewer hasn't called for Molyneux's head. I think the attack is justified when you take into consideration PM's unwillingness to learn from his mistakes and the fact he's been given all but a free pass from journalists on all his undelivered comments made in public. Because of that I have I zero sympathy for him in how the interview was conducted.

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PostRe: The Assassination of Peter Molyneux | RPS Interview
by Saint of Killers » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:46 pm

Lucien wrote:Is anyone else having trouble loading the RPS page?


Not loading here.

edit: Thank strawberry float someone saved it: http://web.archive.org/web/201502131536 ... ckstarter/

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by Psychic » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:49 pm

The more I see debate about this, the less I think that opening was an attack and the more I think it was a valid enquiry. The fact that he lies about lying during the interview probably skews it though.

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by Saint of Killers » Fri Feb 13, 2015 5:59 pm

Lucien wrote:Thanks for the link SoK :)


No worries. Link in opening post is working again, btw. Dunno if anything has been changed or not, though.

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PostRe: The Assassination of Peter Molyneux | RPS Interview
by jiggles » Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:21 pm

Purposefully lowballing your funding goal on Kickstarter to make sure don't come away empty-handed is a despicable practice. Blatantly dishonest to begin with, it's even more scummy that it's being done through crowdfunding, where you're taking money out of your own fans' pockets.

Not to mention, what the strawberry float was he doing on Kickstarter in the first place? The whole premise revolves around giving people your money up front in good faith that you'll deliver what you promise. How did he ever have the confidence that he'd deliver when he never has before?

He was just looking to jump on the latest trend, rig it so that he definitely gets money, and worry about his side of it later.

But, oh no, he was asked loaded questions. Let's talk about the journalism.

I swear, if you want the real reason there's such a disconnect between journos and their audience, it's because games journalists spend all their strawberry floating time talking about games journalism. Slapping each other on the back, calling each other out on how something's handled. The topic of conversation is the conversation itself. It's an ouroboros of bullshit.

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by JediDragon05 » Fri Feb 13, 2015 7:32 pm

Now that was some gaming journalism right there.

He should interview Ubisoft next.

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PostRe: The Assassination of Peter Molyneux | RPS Interview
by captain red dog » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:06 pm

I think he sets the bar too high at times, but I respect his vision. People still seem butt hurt over Fable trees, time to let it go.

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by Meep » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:10 pm

It's good to see the heat turned onto developers who fail to uphold their promises. Molyneux may be one of the most high profile figures but he is not the only one who has been skipping out on projects when the cash is already in the incentives have dried up.

About three quarters of the "Early Access" games available on Steam have never been completed. Now, I am all for alternate business models but Valve needs to shut that gooseberry fool down right away because, going from the limited success rate, the entire project has more or less failed in its goals. Even if one or two good games emerge from it we can probably guess that they were produced by diligent people who would have finished their work anyway.

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PostRe: The Assassination of Peter Molyneux | RPS Interview
by Harman » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:16 pm

Ballsy move to keep repeating how "new" and "original" and "different" Godus is going to be given everything else :lol: He never learns. Part of me wants the game to never come out just to teach him a proper lesson.

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PostRe: The Assassination of Peter Molyneux | RPS Interview
by TheTurnipKing » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:16 pm

Dandy Kong wrote:
Ironhide wrote:Molyneux just sets himself and his teams extremely ambitious goals for their projects, there's nothing dishonest about having to later scale things back when realising that some things can't be done.


One would expect him to learn from his past experiences, though.

He did. He learned that setting extremely ambitious goals and scaling them back was the way to do business.

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PostRe: The Assassination of Peter Molyneux | RPS Interview
by Call and Answer » Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:39 pm

Does Peter Molyneux need to be taken to task over some of the things he has promised and failed to deliver? Yes.

Does that make the RPS interview good or justifiable? No.

I enjoyed the Eurogamer piece, it was an interesting follow up to something that was pretty big news at the time. Somebody standing over a fallen champion and chanting "you're gooseberry fool and you know you are" over and over is not entertaining.

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