US Politics - Trump cancels summit having to do with North Korea

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by **Moggy** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 8:58 pm

It clearly says in the bible that it's a sin to sell pizza to gay people.

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by KK » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:05 pm

But I'm sure he held up a rainbow flag once saying LGBT for Trump!

He must have misunderstood when they said "Trump is really going to strawberry float us"

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by **Cuttooth** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:36 pm

Amazing, super peaceful crowds in London tonight. Was at the back but could tell it was bigly.

Protestors need some better strawberry floating chants though, my god.

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by **Lex-Man** » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:46 pm

This whole thing is surreal. If Trump stays in power for his whole term the US is going to be one hell of a mess.

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by KK » Mon Jan 30, 2017 9:51 pm

Cuttooth wrote:Protestors need some better strawberry floating chants though, my god.

Need to get those wrestling/football/darts fans in there with some STAND UP...IF YOU LOVE THE GAYS, STAND UP...IF YOU LOVE THE GAYS chants in there.

'10 men went to bed...went to bed with Donald...'

All the greatest hits.

An Executive Order on Cyber Security is expected tomorrow....

Lagamorph wrote:
An executive order from President Donald Trump opening up discrimination against the LGBTQ community on the basis of religious belief is expected sometime this week, possibly as soon as today.

Several sources spoke with LGBTQ Nation on the condition of anonymity who have told us that the order will allow for discrimination in a number of areas, including employment, social services, business, and adoption.

From what we’ve heard, the executive order could be far-reaching, and could include: making taxpayer funds available for discrimination against LGBTQ people in social services; allow federally funded adoption agencies to discriminate against LGBTQ parents; eliminate non-discrimination protections in order to make it possible to fire federal employers and contractors based on their sexual orientation or gender identity; and allow federal employees to refuse to serve people based on the belief that marriage should be between a man and a woman, and that gender is an immutable characteristic set at birth, which would impact a broad range of federal benefits.

The order is expected to come in the packaging of so-called “religious freedom,” which argues that someone’s religious beliefs should be enough to prevent them from having to provide goods and services to members of the LGBTQ community if doing so would conflict with said beliefs.

http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2017/01/sour ... ming-soon/

Absolutely disgusting.

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by KK » Mon Jan 30, 2017 11:45 pm

Lagamorph wrote:An Executive Order on Cyber Security is expected tomorrow....

Trump's watched both series of CSI: Cyber, he'll be good on this one.

Corazon de Leon

I can't believe that there aren't limits to the executive order process that will lead to a lot of these orders being vacated on legal grounds in the near future.

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by **Hexx** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 12:09 am

Holy Shirtballs

Atorney General had told DoJ lawyers not to defend the order in court as she doesn't believe it's substance is lawful!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... tests-live

Corazon de Leon wrote:I can't believe that there aren't limits to the executive order process that will lead to a lot of these orders being vacated on legal grounds in the near future.

Although it doesn't help now any order signed by one President can be undone by the next so everything he's signing now can hopefully be changed again in 4 years.

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by **Tomous** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:22 am

Peter Crisp wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:I can't believe that there aren't limits to the executive order process that will lead to a lot of these orders being vacated on legal grounds in the near future.

Although it doesn't help now any order signed by one President can be undone by the next so everything he's signing now can hopefully be changed again in 4 years.

Or 8 if he gets back in...

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by **Tomous** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 1:24 am

Corazon de Leon wrote:I can't believe that there aren't limits to the executive order process that will lead to a lot of these orders being vacated on legal grounds in the near future.

I was always under the impression a president's powers were pretty limited. I'm not sure I even knew what executive orders were but then I guess Trump is the first president to arrive and immediately start using them to strawberry float things up.

Executive orders can be pretty easily undone by the next president.

Corazon de Leon

Tomous wrote:
Corazon de Leon wrote:I can't believe that there aren't limits to the executive order process that will lead to a lot of these orders being vacated on legal grounds in the near future.

I was always under the impression a president's powers were pretty limited. I'm not sure I even knew what executive orders were but then I guess Trump is the first president to arrive and immediately start using them to strawberry float things up.

They're supposed to be used as supplements to power and to enforce the President's authority over foreign policy issues, or in some cases as a last resort on sensitive issues that require a speedy resolution(looking at LBJ, who I know a bit about: some civil rights stuff was dealt with by executive order, along with a few executive orders to combat inner city rioting among other things like creating the Warren commission, and mundane gooseberry fool like that). There's an interesting list of executive orders by President here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_executive_orders

PostRe: The American Politics Thread by **Garth** » Tue Jan 31, 2017 2:37 am

Hexx wrote:Holy Shirtballs

Atorney General had told DoJ lawyers not to defend the order in court as she doesn't believe it's substance is lawful!

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/liv ... tests-live

She's been fired:

Very Nixonesque

Corazon de Leon

I can't believe that's a legitimate communication from the United States government. Holy gooseberry fool.

Executive orders can be 'sort of' held up by Congress/senate I believe in the form of them basically blocking funding for things, which is why Obama couldn't just fling out executive orders like this.

Unfortunately since they're both Republican controlled right now they aren't going to do much.

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